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Flexitarian Diet Trial

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Hey guys so I've been away for a while as I settled in to New Zealand but I'm working full time at Les Mills Extreme in Wellington now so sweet as!!

 

Anyway I have been considering doing vegetarian for a limited period to see it's benefits and to see of any changes in how I look and feel, but instead I've gone down the 'flexitarian' route first (no it's not when you eat and flex at the same time) haha

 

Essentially it's a case of limiting your meat portions and this can mean anything from 1 meat meal a day to 1 a week or fortnight (you get the idea). This is to help reduce the oxidative stress and detox your digestive system, which in theory should then allow your body to absorb nutrients easier.  My idea is to then lower the calories after the first 30 days and see how my body composition changes. I'm already on day 2 and feel good but it's very early days, my strength is just as good but again early days.

 

Anyway thought I'd let you know what I'm up to and get any feedback.

 

If anyone is local to Wellington come see me at the gym more than happy to sort out a workout and discuss nutrition.

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14 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

So are you going to supplement with protein powder, or try to make up the difference with high protein veges? Or do you not worry about your protein intake at all?

 

Sorry forgot to say yes I've set 50g whey as my max powder intake but after 30 days reduce this to 25g then at the 60 day mark reduce to none and keep it on zero powder for 30 days. All my other protein source is coming from full fat cheese (camambert mainly), almonds, black beans, oats and lentils. I will also start to introduce other foods high in protein.  I'm not worrying too much about overall protein intake but it still works out to be around 160g.

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10 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

Interesting. Take some before/after photos and record lots of stats for us.

 

I'm taking a photo every 6 days and recording weight and how I feel.  So far I can tell a big difference in terms of satiety and improved energy levels. Satiety is obvious though due to increased fibre intake.

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I've been doing something similar for the past 6 months or so. I don't eat dairy period though especially whey because of the insulin spikes you get from this and other protein sources without fiber being in the same environment. My reasoning is more to do with the meat/dairy industry practices being hugely inefficient with resources and emissions are ridiculous.  Black beans and nuts are great sources heaps of good recipes out there too. 

 

Will you continue to eat eggs ? This is pretty much my only un-sustainable food source at the moment. Strength has increased on lifts and weight is up around 105-106kg and I am doing 30-60 mins cardio everyday something I thought wouldn't be possible on this diet. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, jimmybro1 said:

I've been doing something similar for the past 6 months or so. I don't eat dairy period though especially whey because of the insulin spikes you get from this and other protein sources without fiber being in the same environment. My reasoning is more to do with the meat/dairy industry practices being hugely inefficient with resources and emissions are ridiculous.  Black beans and nuts are great sources heaps of good recipes out there too. 

 

Will you continue to eat eggs ? This is pretty much my only un-sustainable food source at the moment. Strength has increased on lifts and weight is up around 105-106kg and I am doing 30-60 mins cardio everyday something I thought wouldn't be possible on this diet. 

 

 

out if interest could you post up a typical days eating? 

i always wonder where you would make up the protein without meat OR whey, but i guess eggs is easy answer.

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1 hour ago, maccaz said:

out if interest could you post up a typical days eating? 

i always wonder where you would make up the protein without meat OR whey, but i guess eggs is easy answer.

Yeah mate, eggs do make a large proportion but one can of black beans is 20g and I go through 3 a day in the weekends (its a lot of fiber haha). Typically 3 whole eggs 3 whites a day. The remainder from nuts and small amounts in oats etc. 

 

Typical eats would be: 

 

Oatmeal with cocoa (13 grams protein)

Black beans with 2 whole eggs (36g protein)

Rice with veg (5g protein)

Snacks through day - Tastes assorted nuts x 2 bags (13g protein ea)

Bananas x 3 (3-4g protein)

Nutmeat with rice and sauce (20g protein)

Black beans x 2 cans with salsa 1 whole egg and assortment of herbs and vegetables  (48g protein)

 

Total 151g protein 

 

Also like those vegetable patties that the supermarkets sell. A lot of vegan/vegetarian tastes great without the greasy feel. Just avoid the meat substitutes like Tofu as they taste like arse. Admittedly I will enjoy sushi every saturday pre-training this containing raw fish. 

 

Here is some vegan food porn, can confirm what ive tried tastes gaf. 

http://www.peta.org/living/food/vegan-burger-recipes-thatll-blow-your-mind/

 

 

   

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4 hours ago, maccaz said:

out if interest could you post up a typical days eating? 

i always wonder where you would make up the protein without meat OR whey, but i guess eggs is easy answer.

 

Meal 1 - oats and whey

Meal 2 to 4 - Black beans, kidney beans, cannellini beans, mushrooms, broccoli, ginger, avocado, almonds and camambert (or other full fat cheese)

Post-workout - 25g whey, 200g kumara

Before bed - 4 eggs

 

I'm still exploring loads of different foods though so this will change quite a bit for example I'm going to include more quinoa now.

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5 hours ago, jimmybro1 said:

I've been doing something similar for the past 6 months or so. I don't eat dairy period though especially whey because of the insulin spikes you get from this and other protein sources without fiber being in the same environment. My reasoning is more to do with the meat/dairy industry practices being hugely inefficient with resources and emissions are ridiculous.  Black beans and nuts are great sources heaps of good recipes out there too. 

 

Will you continue to eat eggs ? This is pretty much my only un-sustainable food source at the moment. Strength has increased on lifts and weight is up around 105-106kg and I am doing 30-60 mins cardio everyday something I thought wouldn't be possible on this diet. 

 

 

 

True I guess I'd just not even thought about wheys insulin spike so I'm going to take that into consideration. Yeah still eat eggs 4 on a night mate.

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21 hours ago, jimmybro1 said:

Yeah mate, eggs do make a large proportion but one can of black beans is 20g and I go through 3 a day in the weekends (its a lot of fiber haha). Typically 3 whole eggs 3 whites a day. The remainder from nuts and small amounts in oats etc. 

 

Typical eats would be: 

 

Oatmeal with cocoa (13 grams protein)

Black beans with 2 whole eggs (36g protein)

Rice with veg (5g protein)

Snacks through day - Tastes assorted nuts x 2 bags (13g protein ea)

Bananas x 3 (3-4g protein)

Nutmeat with rice and sauce (20g protein)

Black beans x 2 cans with salsa 1 whole egg and assortment of herbs and vegetables  (48g protein)

 

Total 151g protein 

 

Also like those vegetable patties that the supermarkets sell. A lot of vegan/vegetarian tastes great without the greasy feel. Just avoid the meat substitutes like Tofu as they taste like arse. Admittedly I will enjoy sushi every saturday pre-training this containing raw fish. 

 

Here is some vegan food porn, can confirm what ive tried tastes gaf. 

http://www.peta.org/living/food/vegan-burger-recipes-thatll-blow-your-mind/

 

 

   

Didnt realize so much protein in black beans.. is that one can? 2 eggs i asume around 12-15 depending on size.

Are other beans such as red kidney of similar protein? 

 

Edit: ignore - didnt read properly.

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9 hours ago, Pseudonym said:

You know I sympathise with your morals. I'd be eating salad with you if cows didn't taste so good.

funnily enough im about 50% there with the morals, and im not overly obsessed with eating meat taste wise, could easily ditch it.

 

just currently don't have the time/energy to go investigating good complete protein sources, more time will be spent cooking than just chicken and rice, etc. 

 

expect i wont always eat meat every day, for sure.

 

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