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Yeah, also see if you can get a sample pack or get companies to donate instead of buying a whole box.

 

Mark Lobliner did this a while back on several brands for around 7k I believe.

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Just now, GyzzBrah said:

Yeah, also see if you can get a sample pack or get companies to donate instead of buying a whole box.

 

Mark Lobliner did this a while back on several brands for around 7k I believe.

 

 

That's fucking retarded. Strong possibility gonna make up special tub or whatever correct to label to donate for purpose of test if dodgy. Be like giving someone drug test piss jar and asking them to 'bring it back with piss in it tomorrow'. 

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16 minutes ago, GyzzBrah said:

Yeah, also see if you can get a sample pack or get companies to donate instead of buying a whole box.

 

Mark Lobliner did this a while back on several brands for around 7k I believe.

 

 

wow

 

just when i thought you aren't full retard lol.

all good though, point is it needs to be random purchased sample, not moe's special custom too good for customers blend for the test.

 

the cost is in the testing.

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Terrymundo said:

Is this going to happen??? 

Unfortunately, it seems not. So far we have raised less than 10% of the funds, and there's only 2 days to the cutoff date.

 

4 hours ago, maccaz said:

it can do if we flag the blind taste testing, flag the database, and instead just focus on the testing

As much as I appreciate the never-say-die attitude, we didn't get enough pledges to test even one brand, let alone several.

 

Despite the comments we got saying this was a great idea, this just never went viral. For whatever reason, people didn't share it, so the message never really spread outside our own circle of contacts.

 

It didn't help that we couldn't get many social media influencers on board. Privately, they told me that they'd love to see the project happen... but they just couldn't be seen to support it. It was the same comment whether we were talking to athletes and trainers (for political reasons), or other businesses (for commercial reasons). I can't blame those guys for putting self-interest first, but it doesn't make me feel good about the industry.

 

I did throw a bit of money at Facebook to advertise the project and I guess I could have thrown more, but as I said previously in this topic, this was partly a test to see if it would excite the NZ gym crowd. The answer is pretty clear... The crowd has spoken, and they say, "Meh."

 

Sorry guys. I gave it my best shot, but I think this project is dead. :-(

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"The industry" 97.6% full of gutless and/or self absorbed faggots and scammers bro. Not really much more you could have done.

 

I suggest you burn your bridges and use this forum as a platform to wage a guerrilla cyber-war against those who have betrayed you. Hopefully it spills over into IRL shit.

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11 hours ago, PETN said:

"The industry" 97.6% full of gutless and/or self absorbed faggots and scammers bro. Not really much more you could have done.

 

I suggest you burn your bridges and use this forum as a platform to wage a guerrilla cyber-war against those who have betrayed you. Hopefully it spills over into IRL shit.

Nailed it

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Im suprised at the price of the testing im sure if the right person wanted they could do tests for nothing its not that hard with the right tech, i had a friend many years ago that would test anything for me for free there must be someone out there can do this or would be interested in the results themselves that is in the industry.

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3 minutes ago, eddie said:

Im suprised at the price of the testing im sure if the right person wanted they could do tests for nothing its not that hard with the right tech, i had a friend many years ago that would test anything for me for free there must be someone out there can do this or would be interested in the results themselves that is in the industry.

 

Its gotta be unbiased bro. Not saying that person would alter it. But through a proper company no one could argue with it. With someone's mate, they could.

 

 

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IMO I think the biggest problem is that no one really gives a shit.  (Don't mean to sound blunt Peso :D )

 

I mean as an industry - look at the Narlabs flare up recently.  Arguably both sides had tests done that said conflicting things.  Not one person who commented on those threads were concerned whether the tests were independent or not.  All of the sponsored athletes swear by it's effectiveness otherwise risk saying any results they had in the last X time were placebo, and those on the fringes didn't want to get involved as it compromises your standing in sports that are sponsored by these suppliers.  I don't think this is being self absorbed .. especially when some have income derived from PT and nutrition businesses at stake. 

 

And have people stopped buying Narlabs?  no ... it's almost like they don't care as long as the price fits their meagre budget.  I never bought supplements that were bottom of the price scale.  Take Gaspari for example - they changed their formula every year on their base protein supplement because the cost of raw materials went down at different sources.  They were buying the lowest quality whey they could get to meet the price point in the market that produced the most volume. 

 

I still think this is a good concept though despite it not being the most controversial or talked about issue the nutrition and health & fitness industry in NZ has at the moment.  And that may be the problem.

 

Just my thoughts ...

 

 

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2 hours ago, Optimass said:

All of the sponsored athletes swear by it's effectiveness otherwise risk saying any results they had in the last X time were placebo, and those on the fringes didn't want to get involved as it compromises your standing in sports that are sponsored by these suppliers.  I don't think this is being self absorbed .. especially when some have income derived from PT and nutrition businesses at stake.

 

 

 

I see where you are coming from but that is simply being gutless. Lack of any real integrity in the industry.

 

In other industries you are accountable if your product doesn't meet the required specifications.

 

Fitness industry is tiny compared to actual industries and also full of drugs, dishonesty and dickheads. That's probably why no one gives a shit if it's unregulated. Basically a big orgy of attention seekingchildish losers fucking each other while simultaneously sucking dick. 

 

Don't you sell isagenix?

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17 hours ago, PETN said:

 

 

Don't you sell isagenix?

 

No I don't sell Isa - I sell nutritional consults but insist my clients use Isa in lieu of payment.  That way they are getting value for money and more sustainable results.   

 

The industry is enormous - half of my online clients are from Canada and a few in the US.  Global access extends your market considerably.  Guys like Jo Rackich got in early and have done a good job of capitalizing on the aesthetic culture in the early stages.  Very smart way of doing it too. 

 

2014 the Australian industry was worth approx $1.2 Billion and New Zealand a mere $220M.  This is still good for opportunity.   It's interesting though how most noob trainers and coaches are trying to fish in the comp prep genre - I couldn't care less about it.  The real opportunity is in helping normal people achieve their health goals.  There is a bigger pool and they have a higher income threshold. 

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I meant small compared to actual industries e.g. forestry, mining, construction, farming, most heavy manufacturing etc.

 

For example LNG project I was working on was 34 billion initially but might blow out to up to 60 billion. That's one of several similar projects in aus and that's only the cost of construction. Nothing compared to all the money that's going to be made selling the gas.

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4 hours ago, Optimass said:

 

No I don't sell Isa - I sell nutritional consults but insist my clients use Isa in lieu of payment.  That way they are getting value for money and more sustainable results.   

 

The industry is enormous - half of my online clients are from Canada and a few in the US.  Global access extends your market considerably.  Guys like Jo Rackich got in early and have done a good job of capitalizing on the aesthetic culture in the early stages.  Very smart way of doing it too. 

 

2014 the Australian industry was worth approx $1.2 Billion and New Zealand a mere $220M.  This is still good for opportunity.   It's interesting though how most noob trainers and coaches are trying to fish in the comp prep genre - I couldn't care less about it.  The real opportunity is in helping normal people achieve their health goals.  There is a bigger pool and they have a higher income threshold. 

 

Agree. The worst thing any PT in NZ can do in NZ is "specialise". Yet they all seem to want to do it. It's crazy. Apart from of course the people who are specialists. I have people say to me all the time (they must think I care) "I want to be a specialist S&C coach" and I'm thinking  why the f*ck would you want to do that, do you like having no clients and making no money.

 

When I worked at club physical I had a guy who competed at novice level ask if I could help him with his prep. I said no, best to go see someone else. I said that mainly cause he probably has no money cause spend all on drugs and food. And secondly because he would be best to go see someone else lol. 

 

Its just a big social status thing within the bodybuilding scene to be a specialist prep coach. Load of bollocks if you ask me.

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Weird cos I got an email over the weekend saying not approved then immediately after saying you reached the taget and I've been charged. So assumed it was going ahead?

 

Stink man, was hoping for this to be supported.

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20 minutes ago, M.T said:

Weird cos I got an email over the weekend saying not approved then immediately after saying you reached the taget and I've been charged. So assumed it was going ahead?

 

Stink man, was hoping for this to be supported.

 

Yeah Likewise. Got two emails saying conflicting things 

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1 hour ago, Realtalk said:

 

Yeah Likewise. Got two emails saying conflicting things 

 

Same. First one said hadn't reached target and second one said it had reached target and they were charging me.

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1 hour ago, PETN said:

 

Same. First one said hadn't reached target and second one said it had reached target and they were charging me.

Same. Will just be default emails 

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Yeah, so did I.

 

Just to be clear... we did NOT reach the target, the project will NOT be going ahead, and you should NOT see any charge on your credit card.

 

Sorry about that. I'll send a message to Givealittle to let them know there's a bug in their system.

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Sorry that it didn't reach the target, how much does each test cost by the way ?  Also were you going to make some lucky store owner's day and just buy x amount of tubs from them or were you going to go to different shops and order/buy them from there?

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On Sunday, June 12, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Realtalk said:

 

Agree. The worst thing any PT in NZ can do in NZ is "specialise". Yet they all seem to want to do it. It's crazy. Apart from of course the people who are specialists. I have people say to me all the time (they must think I care) "I want to be a specialist S&C coach" and I'm thinking  why the f*ck would you want to do that, do you like having no clients and making no money.

 

When I worked at club physical I had a guy who competed at novice level ask if I could help him with his prep. I said no, best to go see someone else. I said that mainly cause he probably has no money cause spend all on drugs and food. And secondly because he would be best to go see someone else lol. 

 

Its just a big social status thing within the bodybuilding scene to be a specialist prep coach. Load of bollocks if you ask me.

 

But if no one specializes then who does he go see who's better? Lol 

 

I actually think a lot of pts think they can train anyone for anything. When in reality they probably aren't even able to do basic programming. I focus on what I'm good at and I don't pretend I'm good at anything else. For example I don't pretend I can train someone to be a powerlifter. I can correct form and have some idea but I wouldn't coach it or programme for it. Actually now that I think about it there's not much I can do so I specialize..... :/ 

 

#pt#prep#fitspo#teampro#wankfest

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