HarryB Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Stalkers you should do a few cycles and see how much difference there is ha ha ha then it won't be conjecture for you.... you'll be able to talk with some authority instead of just speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsgood Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, stalkers said: and thats not being disrespectful,but the best lifter on this forum is Hayden Pritchard.thats if he still powerlifts. Interesting, what do you base this opinion on Skeletor and PETN 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monarchking Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Steriods for strength spots: The disappointing truth ^^^^^^^^^READ ME a lot of numbers, %, studies and comparisons in this article that fly over my head, but relative to the topic, and interesting comparisons and worth a look. What you’re getting yourself into: ~5,600 words, 18-37 minute read time Key Points: Many people think steroids make a massive (several-fold) difference in terms of competitiveness in strength sports. They are wrong. Other people (somehow) think that steroids don’t make much of a difference. They are also wrong. Steroids DO help people gain muscle mass and absolute strength at a much faster rate, but the increase in muscle mass generally means you’re forced to move into a heavier weight class where you need to lift more in order to be equally competitive. When looking at world records, experimental evidence, and cross-sectional studies, the resulting picture shows that steroids increase your competitiveness in strength sports by about 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalkers Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 happy to pass 5 mins of your life with you.btw i looked up the meaning of the word diatribe it means an angry or long piece of writing.its most certainly neither.its mild curiosity..nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalkers Posted March 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, HarryB said: Stalkers you should do a few cycles and see how much difference there is ha ha ha then it won't be conjecture for you.... you'll be able to talk with some authority instead of just speculation. umm no,maybe when im 60. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsgood Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 minute ago, MK said: Steriods for strength spots: The disappointing truth ^^^^^^^^^READ ME a lot of numbers, %, studies and comparisons in this article that fly over my head, but relative to the topic, and interesting comparisons and worth a look. What you’re getting yourself into: ~5,600 words, 18-37 minute read time Key Points: Many people think steroids make a massive (several-fold) difference in terms of competitiveness in strength sports. They are wrong. Other people (somehow) think that steroids don’t make much of a difference. They are also wrong. Steroids DO help people gain muscle mass and absolute strength at a much faster rate, but the increase in muscle mass generally means you’re forced to move into a heavier weight class where you need to lift more in order to be equally competitive. When looking at world records, experimental evidence, and cross-sectional studies, the resulting picture shows that steroids increase your competitiveness in strength sports by about 10%. I searched for that study for about 20 minutes and ended up reading heaps of other good ones lol. It it pretty much sums it up. Yes you'll put together a better total but you'll inevitably get heavier so your Wilks or Glossbrener will be affected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 22 minutes ago, stalkers said: and thats not being disrespectful,but the best lifter on this forum is Hayden Pritchard.thats if he still powerlifts. Lol what? Do you actually follow any of the guys on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtalk Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Who cares. Nzpf lifts are compared to nzpf lifts. Gpc lifters compared to Gpc lifts. Pro raw to pro raw. Etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsgood Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Just now, Skeletor said: Lol what? Do you actually follow any of the guys on this forum. Hayden is a solid lifter no doubt and Stalkers is welcome to his opinion There are a few other members that I can think of top my head that I would rate highly as well like Danny Nemani, Reuben Simanu, Tom Mac, Jackson Hinch. Shit even Brett Gibbs is a member here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 minute ago, soundsgood said: Hayden is a solid lifter no doubt and Stalkers is welcome to his opinion There are a few other members that I can think of top my head that I would rate highly as well like Danny Nemani, Reuben Simanu, Tom Mac, Jackson Hinch. Shit even Brett Gibbs is a member here... Yeah he is an awesome lifter for sure. Brett Gibbs was the first person that came to mind for me as well as you the 2 Toms and Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsgood Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 It would make sense if he was your cousin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FellowshipOfTheRon Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 8 minutes ago, soundsgood said: It would make sense if he was your cousin ? skeletor is brett gibbs cousin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, FellowshipOfTheRon said: skeletor is brett gibbs cousin? Lol i wish he was bro. Dont think that was directed at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang_bang Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Hayden Prichard lol can he even bench 3 plates? PETN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundsgood Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 If Stalkers is actually Stephen Pritchard trolling us? I dunno just a wild guess lol Skeletor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 1 minute ago, bang_bang said: Hayden Prichard lol can he even bench 3 plates? Hes benched 167.5kg at 93kg i think. Hes dropped back to like 84kg now as hes right into his crossfit so not sure what hes benching but he squatted 230kg a few weeks back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang_bang Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 5 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Hes benched 167.5kg at 93kg i think. Hes dropped back to like 84kg now as hes right into his crossfit so not sure what hes benching but he squatted 230kg a few weeks back. My bad thought I saw him struggle with 140ish. 167.5 ain't bad at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETN Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, bang_bang said: My bad thought I saw him struggle with 140ish. 167.5 ain't bad at all You probably did. I remember i saw him fail 135 in comp. Was a few years ago though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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