CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Hi all, yes, first time post. I have a few goals I want to tick off as a natty(namely 1000lb club), but lately Ive been putting in a bit more thought in trying my first cycle. My first cycle would be a simple as possible test-e with an AI on hand, but preferably with dbol to start with. Ive seen the recommendation of 250ml every 3rd day, and I guess that would be a good place to start. I would want to do a reasonably long cycle to get the most especially if dbol were not an option poss 12 weeks. Ive done the reading about the possible side effects and mitigations, but what's of the most concern to me is the reliability and availability of the compounds, particularly in NZ Ive seen comments on here that such in such is fake etc. I know I cant ask for sources here, but can I please have some feed back in the safety and reliability of sourcing AAS compounds in NZ? Im male 33 yrs of age, train my little heart off(at least 5 weights sessions a week) am based in Welly. Also mail order overseas is not an option for me. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 ok gyzz brah just post this under your normal account. trust your source. always going to be some level of risk. most people won't ever get an infection. there are worse side effects of steroid use than the risk of infection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicannon Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Couple more posts mate and I'm sure your inbox will be full of " My shit is the safest and most potent shit out there bro, stay away from XXX and XXX etc etc " Got to roll the dice mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 4 minutes ago, maccaz said: ok gyzz brah Umm, sorry that doesnt mean anything to me!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 5 minutes ago, kiwicannon said: Couple more posts mate and I'm sure your inbox will be full of " My shit is the safest and most potent shit out there bro, stay away from XXX and XXX etc etc " Got to roll the dice mate Well I guess that would be a place to start. Maybe I should get a few hamsters and build a little hamster gym and see witch ones get the most swol. AuntMaud and Pseudonym 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I am going to give you a good source http://www.ebay.com/itm/BULK-PURE-NATURAL-ORGANIC-DEER-ANTLER-VELVET-POWDER-CERVI-CORNU-1-oz-2-pound-/171717904548 and http://www.ebay.com/bhp/pine-pollen bro you stack those two up , and watch as your avatar goes up in size from 500kb to 2MB FellowshipOfTheRon and perform.nz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 5 minutes ago, crazyfacials said: I am going to give you a good source http://www.ebay.com/itm/BULK-PURE-NATURAL-ORGANIC-DEER-ANTLER-VELVET-POWDER-CERVI-CORNU-1-oz-2-pound-/171717904548 and http://www.ebay.com/bhp/pine-pollen bro you stack those two up , and watch as your avatar goes up in size from 500kb to 2MB pine pollen is dangerous, too anabolic, heart instantly grows too big for chest and squashes lungs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicannon Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 3 hours ago, CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs said: Maybe I should get a few hamsters and build a little hamster gym and see witch ones get the most swol. Hahah Nice one bro! IMHO if you want to know 100% the gear you get is accuratley dosed and safe, brew your own, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 4 hours ago, kiwicannon said: Hahah Nice one bro! IMHO if you want to know 100% the gear you get is accuratley dosed and safe, brew your own, Ummm I'm not sure someone who has little knowledge in this area, or lab experience (I'm guessing or OP would have done a bit more research first) is the ideal person to be making substances designed to be intramuscularly once or twice a week.......... Just my humble opinion tho! #aseptictechnique #pasteurised #measuredaccurately #dilutions #sterilised Maybe start with Google on these.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicannon Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Yea i hear ya Nate, But unless you know someone first hand and trust this person 100% who is using X brand AAS, which I'm guessing the OP doesn't know anyone hence these questions, then the only reliable way IMO to make sure you are getting safe, sterile, correct dosed AAS is to home-brew this way you can control these factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Apart from the experience issue Nate's raised, the OP has also said that mail order from overseas is not an option. So that would preclude making his own gear, wouldn't it? Perhaps the best advice we can give him is how to distinguish a good source from a bad one? 10 hours ago, maccaz said: ok gyzz brah just post this under your normal account. Hey man, just let the mods do the detective work, please. It's not Gyzzbrah, and that's not a very warm welcome for a newbie to receive. @CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs - welcome. That's possibly the best username I've seen yet! AuntMaud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Apologies @CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs Mistook you for someone else. Imo its just a matter of good injection practice and trusting your source. There is always some risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 10 hours ago, nate225 said: Ummm I'm not sure someone who has little knowledge in this area, or lab experience (I'm guessing or OP would have done a bit more research first) is the ideal person to be making substances designed to be intramuscularly once or twice a week.......... Just my humble opinion tho! #aseptictechnique #pasteurised #measuredaccurately #dilutions #sterilised Maybe start with Google on these.... There isn't much too it... Any idiot could do it. Hell heaps if idiots already are Pseudonym 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 3 hours ago, jimmybro1 said: There isn't much too it... Any idiot could do it. Hell heaps if idiots already are Well we know that...any clown can mix supermarket oil with powder weighed a cheap set of scales and preservative measured in a syringe in their garage. But I'm sure if you got the microbiology boys to test it you'd find the bacterial load would be high, and the dilutions would be inaccurate, with BA / BB levels all over the show. You just need to decide whether you're willing to inject shit made like this? Personally I'd prefer to know anything I ever decided to inject in my body was made under lab conditions, UV sterilisation, pasteurisation of product, correct dilutions, accurate measurements of solutes and preservatives etc Call me conservative when it comes to my health. PS - in many developing countries you can buy liquor that may or may not contain potentially lethal methanol in it. It's cheap as anything. I personally still go to the bottle store though and buy alcohol made under a manufacturing process using GMP's and HACCP practices.....just a wee anecdote for you to ponder :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs Posted November 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 13 hours ago, Pseudonym said: Apart from the experience issue Nate's raised, the OP has also said that mail order from overseas is not an option. So that would preclude making his own gear, wouldn't it? Perhaps the best advice we can give him is how to distinguish a good source from a bad one? Hey man, just let the mods do the detective work, please. It's not Gyzzbrah, and that's not a very warm welcome for a newbie to receive. @CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs - welcome. That's possibly the best username I've seen yet! Thanks Pseudonym. Yes I would still have to source the compounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbosely Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 On 19/11/2015, 14:03:41, CrouchingSquatsHiddenAbs said: Ive seen the recommendation of 250ml every 3rd day, I'd recommend against 250ml!!! AuntMaud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Just now, Jimbosely said: I'd recommend against 250ml!!! haha good catch at 250ml e3d you will gain 1kg every 2 weeks just in oil weight lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbosely Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Buy the shit in cans and chug before a workout ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 1 hour ago, Jimbosely said: Buy the shit in cans and chug before a workout ha I'll take a shit in a can and sell it to you to chug bro.....how much you paying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbosely Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Think I already paid - nz Clen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 1 minute ago, nate225 said: I'll take a shit in a can and sell it to you to chug bro.....how much you paying.... with your snapped legs can you even squat to shit in a can? ;p nate225 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 1 hour ago, maccaz said: with your snapped legs can you even squat to shit in a can? ;p Lol I've been training hammies / calves for 6 weeks and 3rd week on quads now...3.5 months post surgery, though I was told no legs for 8-12 months. My shit in a can helps soft tissue injury, better up the price now you know! Realtalk and Pseudonym 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtalk Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Question, $100 for 50ml clen that doesn't show up. $200 for 50ml clen that does show up. What's cheaper? This cracked me up the other week. Maybe ya had to be there, I dunno. Person gets told their stuff is expensive right after the buyer has got ripped off. I guess getting ripped off for half the amount counts as a bargain these days. 'Lolgic' nate225 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 4 minutes ago, Realtalk said: Question, $100 for 50ml clen that doesn't show up. $200 for 50ml clen that does show up. What's cheaper? This cracked me up the other week. Maybe ya had to be there, I dunno. Person gets told their stuff is expensive right after the buyer has got ripped off. I guess getting ripped off for half the amount counts as a bargain these days. 'Lolgic' 100$ blank spray bottle. seller recommends "1-2 squirts per day" im guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 Surprised no one mentioned a prescription from a medical doctor as being a safe source. *kermit pic* nate225 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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