nate225 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 "Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011". Not a lot in his career post 2011, though he did win a European Powerlifting Champs, be interested to see his lifts versus earlier in career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I like when girls suck my nipplesNipples are meat. Bruce Al and maccaz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 "Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011". Not a lot in his career post 2011, though he did win a European Powerlifting Champs, be interested to see his lifts versus earlier in career?exactlyif strongmen, powerlifters, etc all performend on vegan diets better than or even as well as, meat eaters, there would be more vegan strongmen or powerlifters not just this single guy that vegan promoters always bring up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James2133 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 "Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011". Not a lot in his career post 2011, though he did win a European Powerlifting Champs, be interested to see his lifts versus earlier in career? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrik_Baboumian 2011 4th place at loglifting worldcup (185 kg)2011 German record in loglifting +105 kg (185 kg)2011 German Champion and total winner in log lifting -GFSA2011 German record in beer keg lifiting (13 repeats)[2]2011 Germany's Strongest Man 2011[3]2012 European Champion in Powerlifting Class –140 kg division (GPA)[4]2012 World record beer keg lifting (150,2 kg)[5]2012 World record Front Hold 20 kg (1:26,14 Minuten)[6]2013 World record yoke-walk, 550,2 kg über 10 m in Toronto[7] Im noob but he seems to be doing okay? (not being sicastic)Hes pretty cute, dont you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James2133 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 exactlyif strongmen, powerlifters, etc all performend on vegan diets better than or even as well as, meat eaters, there would be more vegan strongmen or powerlifters not just this single guy that vegan promoters always bring upyes but the top ones arnt going to all of a sudden switch to being a vegan when they are brainwashed into thinking you need meat.You ask the average person who is going to be stronger. A meat eater or a plant eater. With out any evidence they will say meat eater. If you asked me who would be stronger last year I would say a meat eater. I would say eating plants would result in a lack of protein and your health would deteriorate. Why because I was a fucking noob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Al Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 "Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011". Not a lot in his career post 2011, though he did win a European Powerlifting Champs, be interested to see his lifts versus earlier in career?The difference is basically shampoo right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 yes but the top ones arnt going to all of a sudden switch to being a vegan when they are brainwashed into thinking you need meat.You ask the average person who is going to be stronger. A meat eater or a plant eater. With out any evidence they will say meat eater. If you asked me who would be stronger last year I would say a meat eater. I would say eating plants would result in a lack of protein and your health would deteriorate. Why because I was a fucking noob. Go start a journal with all your lifts, and a diet log with what you eat.Spread your liberal bs with actions, not words. Otherwise nobody here will take what you do seriously unless we can see what your training and diet is actually like on a daily basis. We will still not convert to your cult nor be even slightly swayed into your lifestyle, but if we can see what you do irl rather than keep this thread going, you will come across as a reasonable person with a respectable lifestyle choice, as opposed to a complete wanker. gazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastBuilder Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 For the first time ever on record I believe, I basically agree with a whole post of Gyzz's.What is the world coming to lolBut srs this guy isn't even worth replying to, he's telling us we're brainwashed when the reverse is most likely true. GyzzBrah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigken1985 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Go start a journal with all your lifts, and a diet log with what you eat.Spread your liberal bs with actions, not words. Otherwise nobody here will take what you do seriously unless we can see what your training and diet is actually like on a daily basis.We will still not convert to your cult nor be even slightly swayed into your lifestyle, but if we can see what you do irl rather than keep this thread going, you will come across as a reasonable person with a respectable lifestyle choice, as opposed to a complete wanker.That would mean everyone got to see how skinny and weak be is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 1.3 billion jobs come from animal related products. Im off to do my part to support these men and women by eating a 300gm scotch fillet. Longboa, gazza and Bigken1985 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyro Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'm actually amazed you all got sucked into this troll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James2133 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 YUMMY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqJI1Y-EpgY guys watch this. Do you feel anything? I'm curious. Or is just about the gains? What are the guys working out for, girls, passion, self enjoyment? If you need every ounce of "gains" (from magical meat) to get a girl, I think your doing something wrong and got a fucked up mindset. I think a girl is going to be more impressed by your critical thinking skills. Passion and self enjoyment, at the cost of others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingersman Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Tbh i watch all the bullshit thats put on tv about the cruelty to animals etc. I feel bad for them but f*ck it. Im not gonna go hungry cause of some fgt vegan shit. Go join green peace and go protest next to some ships or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Are you seriously using japanese hentai that ppl wank to irl and adding a caption to it to justify your views? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phedder Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 We should be doing everything possible to reduce the destruction of the planet. That means going vegan>meat Well, if you're really all about doing everything possible to save the planet, all for the greater good etc, culling, say, 1 Billion people should help. Maybe we need another plague?(mostly) Jokes aside, here's a worthwhile article to look into - http://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659Here's the first bullet point to pique your interest; at least 25 times more sentient animals being killed per kilogram of useable protein<a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="?%20There" href="?%20There" s%20more%20animal%20blood%20on%20your%20hands."="">And really, protein's what it's all about! Pseudonym 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Well, if you're really all about doing everything possible to save the planet, all for the greater good etc, culling, say, 1 Billion people should help. Maybe we need another plague?(mostly) Jokes aside, here's a worthwhile article to look into -<a data-ipb="nomediaparse" data-cke-saved-href="?%20There" href="?%20There" s%20more%20animal%20blood%20on%20your%20hands."="">And really, protein's what it's all about! welcome back sirsolid information as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James2133 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Come at me (I cant quote Phedder for some reason) http://animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 Good article, Phedder! James, I only skim-read yours, but it seems that the main basis for disagreeing with Phedder's article comes from how much space is required for each different method of farming (eg, grain versus cow). This popped up in my Facebook feed tonight. Regardless of which side you're on, it seemed quite interesting... https://www.facebook.com/gary.yourofsky/videos/892932674095315/ Despite my criticism I kind of agree with you, people need to eat less processed/red meat. But I also think veganism isn't the answer because many animal products are just superior.Chicken/fish/egg life is much more sustainableI find myself eating less red meat now, too - partly out of ethics, and partly out of cost. The only thing I don't agree with you about is the sustainability of fishing (at least, not in its current form). I seldom eat white fish, and I now don't eat tuna at all. Admittedly, there are different types of tuna, and the canned variety is the most common, but "most common" is a relative term. The fish stocks of any species are not in great health, and because tuna are nomadic fish, they're notoriously difficult to count. So I figure it's better not to eat them at all - canned tuna tastes like catfood anyway. I do still eat salmon. My rationale here (rightly or wrongly) is that there's hopefully less bycatch, and given the more predictable migration pattern, it's easier to keep an eye on the stock levels. Being an oilier fish, it also has more health benefits with less environmental impact. Or so I tell myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Al Posted November 3, 2015 Report Share Posted November 3, 2015 This popped up in my Facebook feed tonight. Regardless of which side you're on, it seemed quite interesting... https://www.facebook.com/gary.yourofsky/videos/892932674095315/ Thats pretty cool.. i Wonder if the nutritional break down is similar.But really, i cant help but feel cancer coming on as i watched it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eLm0 Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Although I still think vegetarianism is not the best idea, thought I'd leave these latest quotes from Arnie here for the sake of argumentative neutrality: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/35038053/arnold-schwarzenegger-stop-eating-meat-and-save-the-planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Al Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 YEah ArNie is a bit coookoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 He is speaking as a politician of a liberal state that has bernie sanders supporting college socialists shopping at whole foods and starbucks living in their communes; He is not speaking as the renowned young bodybuilder from a conservative background. Kalidane and Bigken1985 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 Wow. You've changed, Arnie! I think that's his trendy designer stubble talking. I'm sure if he got rid of it, he'd see Conan and the Terminator again, and there'd be no more of this vege nonsense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Is whey still ok to have? can we still do that? we cool bruhs? also, a vegan gainz fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 On 10/30/2015 at 6:10 PM, Skeletor said: 1.3 billion jobs come from animal related products. Im off to do my part to support these men and women by eating a 300gm scotch fillet. Those jobs will just move to another industry. Animal products aren't sustainable nor environmentally friendly. They consume massive resources of food and water to yield so little in terms of animal products, not to mention contribute greatly to emissions and water table contamination. You would be staggered by the proportion of emissions and effluent that is produced just per Liter of white milk or kg of beef. Watch the documentary cowspiracy, on netflicks if you have it and educate yourself in the matter and draw your own opinions to the industry. To many people play pure ignorant to debates like this and just arguments like this. In New Zealand if the dairy industry was to stop there would be extreme economic issues as dairy export comprises a large proportion of New Zealands economy. But does this mean its ok and acceptable? I'm not a vegan or anti meat but I would prefer not to support the industries IMO that are impacting the environment the greatest which are IMO the beef and dairy industry. So I don't consume dairy (avoid it where possible, can be in additives etc) and don't eat red meat (lamb, beef etc). These meats have also had a stronger correlation to heart diseases but that's not my agenda. I do and not support the vegan agenda, but if they want to be vegan they are doing you and I a favor. AuntMaud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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