Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 So I've just had some blood work done because I was experiencing fatique, increased sweating, high bp and my sex drives been lower.I was thinking my thyroid had been playing up but my doctor insisted a range of testsMy vitamin, thyroid etc came back fine but should I be concerned about my test levels From what I seen on the docs screen was the free range went from 225-725 and my level was at 305 now another range I seen was from 10-35 and I sat at 12.5 there was another range and I just made it over the minimum on that one also. I expressed my concern and he told me he would talk to his friend who is a endocrinologist and possibly get me a referral and has given me another follow up appointment My current stats are 6ft 203lbs13% body fatRun 4 cycles in the past main compounds being deca,dbol,test e and sust which could of co tributed to itOther symptoms I've been experiencing is motivation has dropped significantly recently and i get tired easily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Age 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Why don't you just self treat trt? Cheaper and will resolve the sex drive and energy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I would but just moved to Darwin, bulk billing here so the docs are free and gears hard to find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I would but just moved to Darwin, bulk billing here so the docs are free and gears hard to findJoin aussiegymjunkies forum post this exact post and u will get smothered in sauces Polo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Cheers man, hate to think what an endo would cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 I would but just moved to Darwin, bulk billing here so the docs are free and gears hard to findJoin aussiegymjunkies forum post this exact post and u will get smothered in saucesNeed to be a member for 32 days before you can even post there. That's bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtalk Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Should have put some vials in your bag and taken over... 5 vials test last u over a year for trt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Should have put some vials in your bag and taken over... 5 vials test last u over a year for trtThe NT is pretty scarce compared the the bigger city's. Like 100k people here. Would take a 300 return trip to Thailand if I hadn't already been stopped at customs and had gear seized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hu Gh Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Should have put some vials in your bag and taken over... 5 vials test last u over a year for trtThe NT is pretty scarce compared the the bigger city's. Like 100k people here. Would take a 300 return trip to Thailand if I hadn't already been stopped at customs and had gear seized.Lol im in darwin atm br0. What gym you at? Polo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Should have put some vials in your bag and taken over... 5 vials test last u over a year for trtThe NT is pretty scarce compared the the bigger city's. Like 100k people here.Would take a 300 return trip to Thailand if I hadn't already been stopped at customs and had gear seized.Lol im in darwin atm br0. What gym you at? /thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Small world man, I've been training at Nightcliff. Quiet gym, live close and the equipment does the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 You here on impex or just holidaying bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Bit off subject here but should a guy being getting TRT and was competing in a drug tested sport would he then fail the test for performance enhancers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingersman Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Depends on the sport skeletor, i know some fighting ban use of trt even if it was to put them in the natural levels range Skeletor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtalk Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Bit off subject here but should a guy being getting TRT and was competing in a drug tested sport would he then fail the test for performance enhancers?Difficult to tell if the test:epitest ratio is at the allowed ratio, there are other things they look at... But at an nzpf test I doubt. They would just look at it at face value unlike an Olympic Wada test. There is no drug test (that I know of) that test directly for synthetic testosterone. So how the test works is if your test to epitest ratio is out of whack (concentration of epi is above a certai threshold) then that is a positive test. It is uncommon, but it is possible for a natural person to fail this test. It's also possible to mask it reasonably easy and quickly if you understand the science depending on what ester of test is being used. Test suspension (at a lowish dose) within a week of competition/testing day. People take epitestosterone to try correct the balance of the ratio. I used to know lots more about it when nzifbb had drug testing and I was young and I had some gay idea of doing some their shows, but doesn't really matter to me now. These top guys have scientists telling the what to do to pass tests. Olympics and all sports are riddled with drug cheats. Rather compete in comps that don't test, then there are no cheaters.Hope that makes some sort of sense I watching x-factor at same time lol Skeletor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Thanks bro. Lol yep I had to read it a couple of times but got it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Bit off subject here but should a guy being getting TRT and was competing in a drug tested sport would he then fail the test for performance enhancers?Difficult to tell if the test:epitest ratio is at the allowed ratio, there are other things they look at... But at an nzpf test I doubt. They would just look at it at face value unlike an Olympic Wada test. There is no drug test (that I know of) that test directly for synthetic testosterone. So how the test works is if your test to epitest ratio is out of whack (concentration of epi is above a certai threshold) then that is a positive test. It is uncommon, but it is possible for a natural person to fail this test. It's also possible to mask it reasonably easy and quickly if you understand the science depending on what ester of test is being used. Test suspension (at a lowish dose) within a week of competition/testing day. People take epitestosterone to try correct the balance of the ratio. I used to know lots more about it when nzifbb had drug testing and I was young and I had some gay idea of doing some their shows, but doesn't really matter to me now.These top guys have scientists telling the what to do to pass tests. Olympics and all sports are riddled with drug cheats. Rather compete in comps that don't test, then there are no cheaters.Hope that makes some sort of sense I watching x-factor at same time lol With WADA testing (ie NZPF / Olympic Sports etc) if the test:epitest ratio is out, then they use isotope testing to determine if exogenous test or naturally occuring. So the test exists and has been in use for at least 5 years.T:E ratios were 9:1, then 6:1, and now 3:1, so unlike a decade ago you wouldn't get away with using low dose TRT unless you also added Epi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtalk Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 What if ratio isn't out? They just leave it. Or do they test for epitestosterone as well so they can tell if you have administered that to manipulate the ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Dont go endo br0 trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Dont go endo br0 trust me.Yeah dont go endo if ur a whingy teenager who reckons social awkwardness and being a general weirdo = low test haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Br0 you realise I have blood tests to back it up lol. 9.3 ng / mol or whatever. Lh 1.6 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted February 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Dont go endo br0 trust me.Inform me bro? Beats running low test and feeling like shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaz Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Br0 you realise I have blood tests to back it up lol. 9.3 ng / mol or whatever. Lh 1.6 I think. oh thats right you also have a medical degree and have specialised as an endocrinologist for years, giving you the knowledge and experience to interpret those results and give yourself a suitable diagnosis and treatment right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hu Gh Posted February 19, 2015 Report Share Posted February 19, 2015 Gurubrah in the house. Daz's prodigy Realtalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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