musclekitchen Posted October 22, 2014 Report Share Posted October 22, 2014 What are you guys thoughts on Marc's recent vid on gear use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeelang Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 His approach is kind of old school, there is a level where regardless of how you taper and PCT you won't be able to hold it all natural but most people are just generally uneducated as to how to come off properly.. himself included.His opinion on who should be taking gear is pretty hypocritical given his situation; he also doesn’t seem to have a problem with guys like Cody Lewis or Cody Montgomery.regarding when to take them, from an economical perspective the best gains actually are found in untrained bodies, your growth potential is actually bottlenecked by androgens when you are starting out as opposed to needing them at a natural peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 regarding when to take them, from an economical perspective the best gains actually are found in untrained bodies, your growth potential is actually bottlenecked by androgens when you are starting out as opposed to needing them at a natural peak.what does that mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeelang Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 if you are untrained and start lifting you will make a lot of gains if you are untrained and start lifting + AAS you will make extreme gains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtalk Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 if you are untrained and start lifting you will make a lot of gains if you are untrained and start lifting + AAS you will make extreme gains well that's pretty captain obvious bro...most ppl I have seen who use AAS within first month in gym... Have shit physiques so out of proportion and look like shit. Probably due to weak mentality and only doing their favourite exercises. mens bikini good example of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FellowshipOfTheRon Posted October 23, 2014 Report Share Posted October 23, 2014 lol might be true that the potential is there but can see that getting royall messed up considering an untrained person not gonna know jack about diet or how their body responds to exercises. also, big quick gains with no time for tendons to catch up on a newby that doesn't know how to train, ain't that asking for a tear somewhere? i support that old school thinking of his - beginners should stick to slow and steady to build some fundamentals/ good strong base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclekitchen Posted October 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 lol might be true that the potential is there but can see that getting royall messed up considering an untrained person not gonna know jack about diet or how their body responds to exercises. also, big quick gains with no time for tendons to catch up on a newby that doesn't know how to train, ain't that asking for a tear somewhere? i support that old school thinking of his - beginners should stick to slow and steady to build some fundamentals/ good strong base.thats why you also get beginners on large amounts of Deca and HGH to help there tendons and ligaments aswell *crazy* haha.Na gotta agree with you bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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