pkgr33n Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Hey so i've been bulking for about 16 months now, started off skinny fat and now I think i'm just fat with a bit of muscle lol. Probably was bulking at 3k+ cals a day (rough estimate)Stats: Age - 22 Height - 5'9 174cm Weight - 64kg in first pic, and now at 93kg)I’m going on a cut now; probably look into tracking cals (2400 cals, 200g carbs, 85g fat, 210 proteins) - Do my cals and macros look ok?What do you think of progress? (Be honest, I can take criticism lol)How much bf% do you think i'm at?What do you think would be a good form of cardio and how often? I was thinking HIIT 3-5times a week 20mins at a time?Also if you got any recommenndations for any good fat burners, please let me know First pic is at 64kg (pump) the next few pics are at 93kg no pump at all (All pics attached below, for some reason wouldn't let me upload to a website and embedd them :S)If you got any questions, feel free 2 ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroid Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 pkgr33n wrote: What do you think of progress? (Be honest, I can take criticism lol)How much bf% do you think i'm at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZIDE Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 jesus fucking christ. defs overdid bulk. jump on the clen asap. if i was you id be chucking every possible fatburning drug at my body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 If you look at his shoulders and biceps, you can see he's definitely gained a reasonable amount of muscle. But yeah, there's an awful lot of fat gain that came with it.As Leeroid says, careful not to drop your calories too much too soon. Definitely clean up the diet starting now - no more sugar, good carbs only - and then slowly bring the calories down.Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkgr33n Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Probably over-did the bulk. I'd say you're at least 25%. What's the point of getting so fat? IMO anyone that goes gym should never go over 15% max. You gained 29kgs and probably 3 or 4kgs of muscle. To get to 10% or so, you're gonna have to drop a good 20kgs at least. Also looks like you gave yourself gyno from the high bodyfat. High bodyfat = high estrogen. Good luck on your cut. Cals might be too much of a drop. I'd start off at 3k cals initially, see how much you lose in the first 2 or 3 weeks then drop 100-200 cals each week. Cardio is not necessary on a cut, it only lets you eat more calories.Yeah I prob am around the 25% mark tbh. I Dunno man, this was my first ever bulk, so I went all out. I was skinny fat to start with and went all out which was a bad idea lol. Damn 3-4kgs only? Also I've always kind of had a mild gyno, I was really fat to start off with at like 90kg but like 30%+ bf, no muscle whatsoever. Ok I think i'll start off a bit higher cals then, maybe 2.7k and slowly drop it etc as I go on. Ohk not even a mild form of cardio like 20mins uphill walking etc? Cheers for the input bro jesus fucking christ. defs overdid bulk. jump on the clen asap. if i was you id be chucking every possible fatburning drug at my body.Haha I went a bit insane If you look at his shoulders and biceps, you can see he's definitely gained a reasonable amount of muscle. But yeah, there's an awful lot of fat gain that came with it.As Leeroid says, careful not to drop your calories too much too soon. Definitely clean up the diet starting now - no more sugar, good carbs only - and then slowly bring the calories down.Good luck!Thanks man, yep if only I did it right, wouldnt be this bloofy. Also definitely cleaning up the diet, I really don't have much sugars anyways. Also do you think 200g carbs is quite high on a cut for my stats or is that fine? I'll need a bit of that luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 Also do you think 200g carbs is quite high on a cut for my stats or is that fine?It all depends - how does that compare to what you were getting previously? But I would say that should be fine for now. Don't go lower until you need to.Also, keep posting updates regularly. Every 3-4 months is good. That way, we won't let you get 16 months down the track going, "Oh bugger, I over-bulked." But hey... shit happens. I've had the opposite problem - I posted before/after photos 12 months apart, and no-one could tell the difference! Just learn from it, and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FellowshipOfTheRon Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 wow good work on the bulk man atleast you know how it's done now you just have to work on leaning out then next time you start bulking do it with a bit more of a conservative approach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 64-93kgs 174cm in height. I'd say you'd be quite lean at 70kgs but all this work in acquiring bulk and when you cut the fat you have so much to loose you'll just be wasting muscle mass. What's your routine like??my opinion I would take some thermos, up my protein and lower cals to strip the fat off ASAP and slow bulk over summer. looking forward to seeing your cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 You sir could be a spokesperson for "Bulk for Life" ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZIDE Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Swap the pics around and say the after is the before and that it's your weight loss journey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 You gained quite a bit of size, and good on you for not making a beginner mistake of dropping to 0 fat macros, starving yourself, going keto 3 months into training, training every single bodypart everyday for 4 hours, looking up to zyzz thinking he did all that etc. Yes I did all those. Gonna look real good once you lean out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkgr33n Posted August 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 Also do you think 200g carbs is quite high on a cut for my stats or is that fine?It all depends - how does that compare to what you were getting previously? But I would say that should be fine for now. Don't go lower until you need to.Also, keep posting updates regularly. Every 3-4 months is good. That way, we won't let you get 16 months down the track going, "Oh bugger, I over-bulked." But hey... shit happens. I've had the opposite problem - I posted before/after photos 12 months apart, and no-one could tell the difference! Just learn from it, and move on.Yeah i'll definitely post an update in 3-4months. LMAO doubt I would of reached this many kgs If I had posted regular updates haha. Someone surely would of convinced me to slow down etc haha.wow good work on the bulk man atleast you know how it's done now you just have to work on leaning out then next time you start bulking do it with a bit more of a conservative approachYeah man definiately 64-93kgs 174cm in height. I'd say you'd be quite lean at 70kgs but all this work in acquiring bulk and when you cut the fat you have so much to loose you'll just be wasting muscle mass. What's your routine like??my opinion I would take some thermos, up my protein and lower cals to strip the fat off ASAP and slow bulk over summer. looking forward to seeing your cut Yeah I'm not to keen to drop down to 70kg, well i'll see how much size I maintain etc, not 2 fussed about kg's tbh then. My routine is 6 days a week in the gym: Chest/Triceps, Abs, Shoulders, Legs, Biceps/Abs, Back You sir could be a spokesperson for "Bulk for Life" !*Dream Bulking Crew* checking in Swap the pics around and say the after is the before and that it's your weight loss journeyLOL You gained quite a bit of size, and good on you for not making a beginner mistake of dropping to 0 fat macros, starving yourself, going keto 3 months into training, training every single bodypart everyday for 4 hours, looking up to zyzz thinking he did all that etc. Yes I did all those. Gonna look real good once you lean out Haha thanks man. Really hope so, but this leaning out will take quite some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted August 13, 2014 Report Share Posted August 13, 2014 jesus fucking christ. defs overdid bulk. jump on the clen asap. if i was you id be chucking every possible fatburning drug at my body.HHa f*ck your a laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 He's being serious. It's Azide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polo Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 He's being serious. It's Azide.No shit, just cracked me up because I thought of it but havent been around long enough to say it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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