Pseudonym Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Over the weekend, the Herald ran an interesting article about the death of a US kid from caffeine overdose:Teen's death puts focus on caffeine powder dangersNow I knew that too much caffeine could be fatal, but I didn't realise that as little as a teaspoon of pure caffeine powder could be deadly.A mere 1/16th of a teaspoon can contain about 200 milligrams of caffeine, roughly the equivalent of two large cups of coffee. That means a heaping teaspoon could kill, said Dr. Robert Glatter, an emergency physician at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York.The powder is almost impossible to measure with common kitchen tools, the FDA said.It's a bit scary if raw powder is readily available off the shelf from retailers - it would be very easy to imagine that this is a supplement a bit like instant coffee, so you scoop out a teaspoon and away you go...Other than No-Doz tablets, I've never bought caffeine as a dietary supplement. I presumed if it's that dangerous in such small quantities, the powder would have to be sold in capsules or tablets. Is that not the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 holy shit, over 3grams in one dose, never bought caffeine myself, but got DMAA before it got banned, I remember when I first tried hydroxycut hardcore (first ever fat burner) I think @ 3 tabs it was about 200mg , crazy panic attacks from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZIDE Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 the LD50 for caffeine is 12g. he must have been an outlier. dunno why they say its impossible to measure with kitchen tools either, FDA must be comprised of retards if they cant manage reasonable weight estimates at sub gram accuracy using 1g increment kitchen scales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz69 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 the LD50 for caffeine is 12g. he must have been an outlier. dunno why they say its impossible to measure with kitchen tools either, FDA must be comprised of retards if they cant manage reasonable weight estimates at sub gram accuracy using 1g increment kitchen scalesRemember, they are American, all they are fit for is starting wars with third world countries, they don't ever seem to be able to win... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 the LD50 for caffeine is 12g. he must have been an outlier. dunno why they say its impossible to measure with kitchen tools either, FDA must be comprised of retards if they cant manage reasonable weight estimates at sub gram accuracy using 1g increment kitchen scalesIm pretty sure the LD50 only applies to death via actuall blood toxicity of the substance, and not possible death before from the side effects of that substance itself.For example, If I consume 12 g of caffiene, I can die from liver failure and organ shutdown, but that dosent mean I cant die from 3g before that from a heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZIDE Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 the LD50 for caffeine is 12g. he must have been an outlier. dunno why they say its impossible to measure with kitchen tools either, FDA must be comprised of retards if they cant manage reasonable weight estimates at sub gram accuracy using 1g increment kitchen scalesIm pretty sure the LD50 only applies to death via actuall blood toxicity of the substance, and not possible death before from the side effects of that substance itself.For example, If I consume 12 g of caffiene, I can die from liver failure and organ shutdown, but that dosent mean I cant die from 3g before that from a heart attack.im pretty sure thats not what it means. where did you get that ridiculous definition from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GyzzBrah Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 im pretty sure thats not what it means. where did you get that ridiculous definition from?I don't fking know, it was just a question / idea, not my answer. I just assumed that the ammount required to kill someone through toxic ammounts of blood concentration were not the same as the ammount required to kill you through other means. For example, if the LD50 for caffiene was 12 grams, it does not mean you cant get cardiac arrest before you reach toxic concentrations of the said substance. Hence people die from preworkouts doing cardio etc, without actually taking a lethal dose of it. Again, just my assumption, I could be totally wrong. Im 16 ffs, It's perfectly normal to make vivid assumptions about things and form a strong opinion for no reason, part of having a developing and growing brain. Totally different if I was an adult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZIDE Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 im pretty sure thats not what it means. where did you get that ridiculous definition from?I don't fking know, it was just a question / idea, not my answer. I just assumed that the ammount required to kill someone through toxic ammounts of blood concentration were not the same as the ammount required to kill you through other means. For example, if the LD50 for caffiene was 12 grams, it does not mean you cant get cardiac arrest before you reach toxic concentrations of the said substance. Hence people die from preworkouts doing cardio etc, without actually taking a lethal dose of it. Again, just my assumption, I could be totally wrong. Im 16 ffs, It's perfectly normal to make vivid assumptions about things and form a strong opinion for no reason, part of having a developing and growing brain. Totally different if I was an adult.ok sorry bro. didnt realise it was your period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeroid Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Gyzzbrah you need to stop being a little bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FellowshipOfTheRon Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 i got some caffiene caps (200mg caffiene anhydrous per cap) and only 1 is pretty damn effective. heaping teaspoon definately not a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym rat Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Holly shit thank god I don't buy any form of caffeine supplements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 The LD50 is the dose that will kill 50% of the people it's given to. So essentially at 12g you have a 50% chanc of dying. For some people the lethal dose will be much lower than 12g for some it will be higher. The LD50 is not the dose upto which you will be fine and then as soon as you hit it, BAM you're dead. Ofcourse it depends on the substance and individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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