crazyfacials Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Anyone else have been diagonsed with this? Did you have to change your routines much because of it ? How about the pain that you got due to the nerve being pinched....did it ever go ? Guys don't troll or I will mod neg you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 What's causes it? Genetic or lifestyle ? Doesn't sound like a good time. Rough man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 not sure if it's bro science or real facts but the chriopractor was telling me it's due to 3 things really 1 life style (my posture/pillow support when sleeping/physical activity) 2 Stress (things have been going pretty shitty in my life so maybe?) 3 Nutrition (healthy eating = healthy spine/discs ? ) reading about it really means your discs shrink compared to what they were like, you can't reverse or cure it, you can try to take out discs...but I would like to leave that as the last resort, I currently have 2 crappy shoulders, however doing a few chiro sessions and acupuncture has made it better....I don't think it's a genetic thing as I am the only one in the family who has it (go me!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Hopefully someone can help you manage it. I thought certain recreational drugs can cause the discs to degenerate or does something to the spinal fluid. Read it somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Damn, that's no good, mate. I know nothing about this, but two areas I'd start looking into would be glucosamine and fish oil.Stick around and let us know how you get on. Keep bouncing ideas off us too if you need. Hopefully you/we can get this under control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebuff Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Mate, I have had multiple spine surgeries so I know what back pain can be like. Can you clarify a few questions though? For one, have you had your diagnosis confirmed by a specialist? Things like disc degeneration are visible on x-rays and should result in follow up visits with specialists + MRI through public health. If not, push for it. Also... be really cautious about going to a chiropractor. If I were you, I'd be checking the state of things out with a specialist before going back to a chiro. In the case of mine (double fracture to L5 vertebrae), my surgeon told me that I faced a very real risk of permanent spinal cord damage from the kinds of manipulations that chiros do. I would also advocate for some reading into fish oil, as psuedo said. There are some studies showing high doses of fish oil can have incredible anti-inflamatory effects (though can be accompanied by lower immune function so be careful). Read up on it, or talk to your specialist.As for exercise... I actually found that continuing to work out very regularly was helpful. I kept doing deadlifts and squats right up until my surgery and the surgeon commented after the surgery that the joint itself was beyond fucked, but that my excellent core and lower back strength was what kept me moblie. There is also plenty of research out there on this topic too; so don't think that a spinal injury definitely means not being active. You will need to change some patterns, especially looking at how you sit (and for how long) and how you lift (do you use proper form). Even more crucial is how well you are able to activate your TVA, so things like pilates and yoga come in here, but spine injuries mean that you need to go right back to basic to ensure that you have a solid foundation of core strength (not just pretty abs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Aight well first of all, don't take any advice from a chiro, they aren't doctors, although they wish they were, they are quacks. Who "diagnosed" you? If it was the chiro I'd be highly skeptical and seek out the advise from an actual doctor of medicine. Get a referral from your GP to see a proper orthopedic surgeon specialising in spine. If you can go private I can recommend Alastair Hadlow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Aight well first of all, don't take any advice from a chiro, they aren't doctors, although they wish they were, they are quacks. Who "diagnosed" you? If it was the chiro I'd be highly skeptical and seek out the advise from an actual doctor of medicine. Get a referral from your GP to see a proper orthopedic surgeon specialising in spine. If you can go private I can recommend Alistair Hadlow.You don't need a referral you can just go straight to the specialist thats what I have done in the past saves time and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Yup, sure can, anyone can refer themselves to a specialist, the only thing is it might not be spinal, could be neurological, musculoskeletal, rheumatological, so best to see a gp to get the right referal, better to waste 50 bucks than 500 lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yup, sure can, anyone can refer themselves to a specialist, the only thing is it might not be spinal, could be neurological, musculoskeletal, rheumatological, so best to see a gp to get the right referal, better to waste 50 bucks than 500 lol.Haha good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted March 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 Aight well first of all, don't take any advice from a chiro, they aren't doctors, although they wish they were, they are quacks. Who "diagnosed" you? If it was the chiro I'd be highly skeptical and seek out the advise from an actual doctor of medicine. Get a referral from your GP to see a proper orthopedic surgeon specialising in spine. If you can go private I can recommend Alastair Hadlow.nah I didn't but yeah might do so here is pretty much the full story... I woke up one morning with a sore neck, thought it was due to me sleeping funny, a hot shower didn't fix it, later on in the day I went to those chinese massage places in the mall and that massage didn't fix it, I booked an appointment with a physio hoping they'd fix it but the physio did f*ck all, not to mention I booked to see her 4 days later and when I walked in she was like "oh I had you down as a cancelled appointment, didn't you call and cancel?" which was total BS since I was in pain why the hell would I cancel, so it turns out someone else rang to cancel their appointment and instead of scratching their name out they decided to cancel my session....so I told her to forget it and I'll go else where for treatment.A few days later the pain spread to my upper arms and my jaw....sometimes all the way down to my fingers (no chest pain though in case anyone wants to say stroke) ...a few physio visits with clicks and adjustment helped a bit, also added chinese acupuncture (this one was fucking strange though as after putting the needles in she’d attach these herb balls to them and set them on fire….after that she’d rub some paste on the area and tell me to not eat spicy or sea food else it may not work as much….after these sessions I am now getting acupuncture + electric current going through the needles, this feels great …now the chiro is doing something funky, she’d be tapping my head/back/ears and heels and move my feet and reckons this is helping me, after each session I feel a bit strange but I would of thought more clicking would be better! I had my x rays done and that’s how they diagnosed me, currently my upper body strength is a laughing stock especially the left side, for example curling 7 Kgs was like curling 70 Kgs 3 weeks ago, now I’ve improved to an almighty 12Kg lol, what really hurts now is laying on the bench for bench press…I am super weak now but also the pain is almost unbearable, as is seated bench press, which is why I am limiting myself to real light weights , funny enough I did squats recently ….not much just to see how it felt and doing 100kg didn’t cause me any pain in that area, I have had about a year and a bit off to rest my other side (right shoulder) so I know my strength won’t be there, I am not really worried about strength as I know I can get it back, but the pain hopefully will subside . I will go back to consuming some of the supplements (fish oil/vitamins etc) and see how I get on…. Will keep you updated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 How old are you? When I started reading that you had a sore neck I was freaking out since I woke up with a sore neck 2 weeks ago and its still sore LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rebuff Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 How old are you? When I started reading that you had a sore neck I was freaking out since I woke up with a sore neck 2 weeks ago and its still sore LOL. haha me too!!! had a sore neck for a couple of days... start to feel like i need someone to set fire to some accupuncture needles... the power of suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted March 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2014 Small update. Saw the GP and gave him my X-rays, he did agree there is narrowing at the discs which might be annoying some nerves, he did tell me that this can't be reversed (sadly I knew this already) then he goes to me I need to get back to the gym and build up my neck muscles and shoulders and core..... I could of sworn that if he said "Go lift you (insert some derogatory word here)" that he was one of you guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted March 30, 2014 Report Share Posted March 30, 2014 Wait, this problem requires more lifting to solve it? Oh noes, what will you do?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted April 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2014 Wait, this problem requires more lifting to solve it? Oh noes, what will you do?! to be honest I would rather get the opinion of a specialist, but I do really miss lifting so I might as well just do as he says and we go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinahlady Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ive actually had it suggested to me that I might have a similar issue... or at least some sort of compression in my neck. Months of pain in wrists forearms biceps triceps neck... Off for X-rays I go. pls god no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ive actually had it suggested to me that I might have a similar issue... or at least some sort of compression in my neck. Months of pain in wrists forearms biceps triceps neck... Off for X-rays I go. pls god no. Sounds like what I am going through, acupuncture has helped me a bit, the odd chiro adjustment has too (acu might be a bit better though, especially if they do the electric stuff too, don't go for the random marshmellow roasting thing on the needles lol)....it may sound scary because of the word "disease" but disks shirnking is actually normal-ish (it's the same as us getting wrinkles) only thing that sucks is that I got it at 29, not sure if me taking isotane has had anything to do with it to be honest, whatever it is, I hope your issue is not as crappy as mine and perhaps (hopefully) it's a short term thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinahlady Posted April 18, 2014 Report Share Posted April 18, 2014 Yeah my xrays indicate small height loss between C5 and C6. Probably not disc degeneration but I dont know what they'll say - small herneation or something. Getting MRI too next week or so. Orthopods seemed fairly optimistic. He said my neck looked like a good neck ha. At least I know why I can't bench or hold my own weight now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Gotta love post MRI injection pain....I've been back at the gym recently, and it's feeling a bit better now, not doing any heavy lifting (can feel a lot of strength loss expecially the left side) but doing shoulder stretches has been helping (the one where you grab the broom and move your arms from the front to the back) ...you could give that a go I suppose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinahlady Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 my MRI isnt until 5th May now cos lots of shit closed over easter/anzac. Not sure what I should or shouldnt be doing - Stretching/cardio etc. I've had a heap of strength loss but I thought it was due to shoulder impingments and wrist pain etc. i've Been doing rehab and stretching and massage for months and months but no improvement and I've barely done upper body lifting stuff (but have been deadlifting) so I'm thinking total rest apart from maybe some cardio on bike and lying lower body stretches for a while or at least till I get to see the orthopods again and they let me know whats all good and whats not. I feel happier though now I know (almost) what it is and hopefully they can fix it for me somehow. Do you have no surgery options at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 yeah strength loss does happen sadly, I do remember that when it started to happen curling 7kg dumbbells felt like 700 ....slowly getting back up there, acupuncture helps too (until the lady goes on about how she is reseting my chi/chakara....) deadlifting was the only thing that felt remotely ok for uppser body , but like I said in my journal the lockout still hurt, there is a choice for me if I were to go under the knife, it will most likely be that they take the disc out though, so I am trying to avoid it incase it leads to other things. Keep in mind though that I've never heard anyone go to a chrio and not get a scare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinahlady Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I've heard you can get prosthetic discs now and you dont have to go the fusion route - though this might not be done very often in nz. Deff the way I'd want to go if I had to. But fingers crossed i wont have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 yeah but how much would it cost and as you said does it get done here? long term effects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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