Ironman_nz Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 HiMy stats are 28yo, 1.79m (5'10), 116kg (256lb)Been training fulltime for 6 years, using gear the last 4 years.I don't cycle, I blast/cruise now, have been on for the past 2 years straight now.Just finished my last cruise of 500 test / 200 deca. I was very lean prior to this and during my cruise I purposely was slack with training and eating so have put on a fair bit of bodyfat. Am about 11-12% at the moment.Running a short 8 week course up to mid jan to recomp and get lean again.New cycle started yesterday750mg Test E/week350mg Tren A/week (100mg EOD)350mg Masteron E/week50mg Winny/day orallyCycling Albuterol 2 on 2 offI'm also dabbling a little bit with Slin for the first time to bring up bodyparts that need to be brought up to the rest of my body. Namely Chest, Back and maybe arms.My training philosophy for this cycle is not to go for all out strength, ive been there done that too many times. It is to go for Jay Cutler style reps - keeping the pressure on the muscle the whole time, focusing on working the muscle intended. Volume is reasonably high but rest periods are short. Yesterday I trained Chest (will only list working sets)Benchpress165kg x 12165kg x 10140kg x 15 DROPSET 100kg x 12 DROPSET 60kg x 20Incline DB Press w hands shaped like V50kg x 2050kg x 1550kg x 12 DROPSET 25kg x 12 DROPSET 15kg x 12Weighted DipsBodyweight + 20kg x 10Bodyweight + 20kg x 10Bodyweight x 12Flat DB Flies30kg x 1230kg x 1230kg x 1230kg x 12First Jab of Tren today, hopefully the sides will be kind to me :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymundo Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Phuckin beast bro!!!you look on paper so I assume you look good in person.165 for 12 :shock: glad to have you on the boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Declare War Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Hard out, where are you training?SG, time to run a new "NZBB's Strongest Bodybuilder" comp again eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Monster !Pictures ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman_nz Posted November 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Thanks guys. Might put up pics closer to the end of the cycle when I'm in better shape. I train with Nate from these forums every now and again. He can vouch for me. I don't know about doing any strong man competitions IDW. I'm not training for strength anymore these days so my 1RM aren't what they used to be.I'm contemplating adding in some extra cardio to speed this cut up. I've been pretty slack during my down time and general fitness has suffered so I might add in 3-4 30 min sessions on the rowing machine or treadmill. I've cut so many times before I can usually get to around 8% pretty quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate225 Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 I train with Nate from these forums every now and again. He can vouch for me. I don't know you, who is this, don't come here, I'm hangin' up. :pfft: :grin: Yeah I know Ironman, makes me look like a little boy! :nod: Legit poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diab0lic Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 165x12 Bench and 50kgx20 IDBP is beasting it bro. Gonna have to chime in on the pics call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 First Jab of Tren today, hopefully the sides will be kind to me :grin:Ever tried Tren ED with a slin pin? I swear it cuts the sides in half... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymundo Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 First Jab of Tren today, hopefully the sides will be kind to me :grin:Ever tried Tren ED with a slin pin? I swear it cuts the sides in half...how does a slin pin help? just curious is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 First Jab of Tren today, hopefully the sides will be kind to me :grin:Ever tried Tren ED with a slin pin? I swear it cuts the sides in half...how does a slin pin help? just curious is allSlin pin to reduce the amount of scar tissue you can develop with ED pokes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Slin pins quite expensive though ay? or is that slin barrels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclenz Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 First Jab of Tren today, hopefully the sides will be kind to me :grin:Ever tried Tren ED with a slin pin? I swear it cuts the sides in half...That's because your deliver the shot too shallow into adipoise tissue & it takes the compound twice as long or more to be cleaved off the ester chain :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANIEL8 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Slin pins quite expensive though ay? or is that slin barrels?I think your meaning slin PEN not pin. as obviously the needle on insulin barrels come fixed on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 They come in a pack of pins looking like this which you load onto the pen You can still get the same gauge pins and fix them to a suitable barrel from the needle exchange though I think.Would not pin with these however. You won't barely penetrate the muscle especially if you aren't lean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwijuice Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 First Jab of Tren today, hopefully the sides will be kind to me :grin:Ever tried Tren ED with a slin pin? I swear it cuts the sides in half...That's because your deliver the shot too shallow into adipoise tissue & it takes the compound twice as long or more to be cleaved off the ester chain :roll:lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genetic freek Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Slin pin :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironman_nz Posted November 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 A slin plin is only 1/2 an inch. My muscle bellies are not small and I'm not really shredded to the bone so it wouldn't be long enough to get right into the muscle. I do appreciate the idea though Dianabol, anything to make pinning easier right!Today I pinned first shot of Tren and Mast. Will be 100mg EOD of the tren at this stage, it's not a high dose for me so sides should be tolerable enough.Trained Arms (Biceps and Triceps).Biceps Curls w oly bar (in squat rack :pfft: )15 x 55kg12 x 55kg12 x 55kg + 3 slow negativesV bar cable push downs12 x 3/4 stack12 x 3/4 stack12 x 3/4 stack DROPSET 12 x 1/2 stack DROPSET 12 x 1/4 stackEzy Bar Reverse Curls4 sets of 12 x 30kgClose grip Benchpress15 x 125kg12 x 125kg12 x 125kg DROPSET 20 x 60kgDumbbell Skullcrushers4 sets of 12 x 30kg DBs DROPSET on last set 12 x 15kgIncline DB curls3 sets of 15 x 15kg Finished on a superset of DB Hammer Curls 21 x 20kg+ Dips - body weight x 16Did 4 sets of 20 standing calf raises on a plate (sounds way to easy but it's not bad for your calves)20 minutes on the cross trainer after the train. Fair bit of volume with little rest today, but I had a pre workout with a bit of raw 1,3 Dim added to it for the extra kick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Ever tried Tren ED with a slin pin? I swear it cuts the sides in half...how does a slin pin help? just curious is allSlin pin to reduce the amount of scar tissue you can develop with ED pokes...Alright snoopy lol Strong benching! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 First Jab of Tren today, hopefully the sides will be kind to me :grin:Ever tried Tren ED with a slin pin? I swear it cuts the sides in half...That's because your deliver the shot too shallow into adipoise tissue & it takes the compound twice as long or more to be cleaved off the ester chain :roll:Im talking about ED pokes vs EOD pokes to minimize sides by keeping blood levels stable MNZ. The method of delivery being a slin pin for ED pokes because the needle is so small and much more painless. If you want to use a normal 25G 1 inch needle because you are too fat go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Slin pins quite expensive though ay? or is that slin barrels?They're $0.50 each...how is that expensive.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 A slin plin is only 1/2 an inch. My muscle bellies are not small and I'm not really shredded to the bone so it wouldn't be long enough to get right into the muscle. I do appreciate the idea though Dianabol, anything to make pinning easier right!I dont know about you, but at 10%. I have alot less than half an inch of adipose tissue on my delts and especially biceps and triceps...Anyway, will stop hijacking your thread with this "hybrid theory" but keep it in mind as an alternative should the sides get too much (sweating and insomnia especially).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Dude the only reason the sides would be less when all factors (such as dose and dose frequency) are the same apart from the length of the pin is because the shits not getting into the muscle it's being injected into fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Dude the only reason the sides would be less when all factors (such as dose and dose frequency) are the same apart from the length of the pin is because the shits not getting into the muscle it's being injected into fat.Wrong, wrong and wrong....WTF would you know what my BF percentage is mate?You are completely missing the point.Forget I ever said slin pin, use a fucking 18G pin for all I care. The point is Tren Ace ED vs EOD to minimize sides. Who gives a f*ck about the method of delivery... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 I thought u were talking about method of delivery... I think so did everyone else lol.All goodAlso u didn't guess ur body fat percentage or allude to any level of leaness or fatness. Chill bill. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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