palmtree Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 test p Week1-4 100mg EODtest e Week1-12 400mg (split into 2 shots)deca Week 1-10 200mgaromasin week1-12 12.5mg every dayhcg Week 2-14 (250iu every 4 days)pct clomid 150mg1st day, followed by 100mg for the next 7 days, followed by 50mg for the next 14 daysanything you would critique or add??thanks in advance feel free to rip it to pieces if you don't agree with any part haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIANABOL Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 You should be running more than just clomid for your PCT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmybro1 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 He's got HCG in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severe Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Be easier to dose test e at 500 wouldn't it?If dosing is at 250mg/ml. Easy 1ml a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz69 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 test p Week1-4 100mg EODtest e Week1-12 400mg (split into 2 shots)deca Week 1-10 200mgaromasin week1-12 12.5mg every dayhcg Week 2-14 (250iu every 4 days)pct clomid 150mg1st day, followed by 100mg for the next 7 days, followed by 50mg for the next 14 daysanything you would critique or add??thanks in advance feel free to rip it to pieces if you don't agree with any part hahaIf you want to be particular you could pin the Prop' 100mg EOD/week 1, 75mg week 2, 50mg week 3, 25mg week 4... You might get steadier blood levels as the compounded half-lives from the Test-E start to stack-up...I wouldn't use Aromasin without checking your blood levels first to see if you really need it.... You don't want to f*** about with Estrogen if you don't have to...I have my own views on HCG.....Clomid 50mg/day, Nolva 20mg/day 4-6 weeks.... Starting 2 weeks after last shot of Test-E.......Clomid is a bit harsh to be using 150mg etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmtree Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 cheers boys appreciate the feedback clomid and nolva for pct will cover all bases then? so you don't think i will get any sides on that ?and as far as the 400mg of test e goes would you recommend the increase for any other reason ?not that phased on the inconvenience hahaonce again thanks for the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 i would bump the test to at least 600mg, bump the deca up to 600mg toowouldn't bother with hcg or clomid, just taper the dose off and use aromasin if gyno sides begin to appear#Broscience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Is this ur first cycle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmtree Posted October 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 na third Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Looks fine then.I just wouldn't use hcg, aromasin. And my pct would just be a 3-4week Nolva course. Keeping protein and food intake high and training hard, maybe use a creatine and some zma. The steroid cycle looks fine to other stuff a little over the top for me. Your gonna loose some gains when u come off, get over it. That's just how it is, loading ur body with a big pct stack ain't gonna do shit and isn't worth the money it's costing u.But that's me I don't know you.Any dosage like that will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz69 Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 i would bump the test to at least 600mg, bump the deca up to 600mg toowouldn't bother with hcg or clomid, just taper the dose off and use aromasin if gyno sides begin to appear#BroscienceWhat, if any logic do you base this on...???As Tom says keep your food intake high... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 i would bump the test to at least 600mg, bump the deca up to 600mg toowouldn't bother with hcg or clomid, just taper the dose off and use aromasin if gyno sides begin to appear#BroscienceWhat, if any logic do you base this on...???just my own experience,tbh clomid is a good choice if its difficult getting natural hormone levels back to normal. I might use it at some point in the future if needed but until then the simple taper off & on works well with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Most ppl post cycle loose muscle and it all goes to shit because they get weaker, smaller pump and feel like shit in comparison to on cycle leading to shit nutrition and shit training.It's not because of the lack of post cycle therapy drugs lol.Sure that helps but the emphasis and debate over what and how much to use is rediculous imo.When I come off for good in November all ill use is nolvadex. I'm 26 now and been on since was 19 and ill hardly loose any muscle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tomsammce Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Most ppl post cycle loose muscle and it all goes to shit because they get weaker, smaller pump and feel like shit in comparison to on cycle leading to shit nutrition and shit training.It's not because of the lack of post cycle therapy drugs lol.Sure that helps but the emphasis and debate over what and how much to use is rediculous imo.When I come off for good in November all ill use is nolvadex. I'm 26 now and been on since was 19 and ill hardly loose any muscleLooking forward to the before and after pics Tom. You never been off in all that time? Shit bro... it's a rough ride sometimes aye. Hope ur prepared. Iv been off a couple times but u didn't train for one break which was 14 months and the second break didn't train which was 18 months. Both big operations and rehab. One for hand and tendons other for chainsaw to knee lol.Has to be done brah... Natty crew.Anyway back on topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentOrange Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Tom, If admin are not deleting your posts you are. I'm sure these posts I always miss, are gold! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Declare War Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 It wasn't a bad post AgentOrange, it was just off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denzil Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Most ppl post cycle loose muscle and it all goes to shit because they get weaker, smaller pump and feel like shit in comparison to on cycle leading to shit nutrition and shit training.It's not because of the lack of post cycle therapy drugs lol.Sure that helps but the emphasis and debate over what and how much to use is rediculous imo.When I come off for good in November all ill use is nolvadex. I'm 26 now and been on since was 19 and ill hardly loose any musclewhat what ? did i see "come off for good"? why would you do such a thing? .. il give you 3 months max. chur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Most ppl post cycle loose muscle and it all goes to shit because they get weaker, smaller pump and feel like shit in comparison to on cycle leading to shit nutrition and shit training.It's not because of the lack of post cycle therapy drugs lol.Sure that helps but the emphasis and debate over what and how much to use is rediculous imo.When I come off for good in November all ill use is nolvadex. I'm 26 now and been on since was 19 and ill hardly loose any musclewhat what ? did i see "come off for good"? why would you do such a thing? .. il give you 3 months max. churReckon...whats this about?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 Also, how do you plan to keep all that muscle, surely your gonna loose a little?Tell us your wizard secrets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 test p Week1-4 100mg EODtest e Week1-12 400mg (split into 2 shots)deca Week 1-10 200mgaromasin week1-12 12.5mg every dayhcg Week 2-14 (250iu every 4 days)pct clomid 150mg1st day, followed by 100mg for the next 7 days, followed by 50mg for the next 14 daysanything you would critique or add??thanks in advance feel free to rip it to pieces if you don't agree with any part hahaLooks like a good cycle man, HCG is way to expensive for what it does, spend that money on nolva IMO.Gonna use any orals like dbol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymundo Posted October 25, 2012 Report Share Posted October 25, 2012 i would bump the test to at least 600mg, bump the deca up to 600mg toowouldn't bother with hcg or clomid, just taper the dose off and use aromasin if gyno sides begin to appear#Brosciencewould your winky work with 600mg deca with only 600mg test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Most ppl post cycle loose muscle and it all goes to shit because they get weaker, smaller pump and feel like shit in comparison to on cycle leading to shit nutrition and shit training.It's not because of the lack of post cycle therapy drugs lol.Sure that helps but the emphasis and debate over what and how much to use is rediculous imo.When I come off for good in November all ill use is nolvadex. I'm 26 now and been on since was 19 and ill hardly loose any musclewhat what ? did i see "come off for good"? why would you do such a thing? .. il give you 3 months max. churReckon...whats this about?!Trololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denzil Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Also, how do you plan to keep all that muscle, surely your gonna loose a little?Tell us your wizard secretsin for wizards secrets! \:D/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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