shane Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Has anyone or currently doing high rep weight training at all?? and if so did you get any good gains? be interested to hear what you guys think of this kind of training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denzil Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Has anyone or currently doing high rep weight training at all?? and if so did you get any good gains? be interested to hear what you guys think of this kind of training. read this mate, def worth reading..http://www.musculardevelopment.com/arti ... urand.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ok good read thanks, still going to try the high rep training see how it goes :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatliftrest Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Good read. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 So what is everyone doing for their training then high reps or the conventional low rep routine :?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denzil Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 So what is everyone doing for their training then high reps or the conventional low rep routine :?:heavy 8-10 reps sometimes mix it up with higher reps always good to mix things up, superset ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlikeafreak Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 there is nothing wrong with high reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 What do you consider high rep training, Shane? Mostly my reps will be between 8-12, sometimes I'll go down to 4 or up to 15. Occasionally I'll finish a workout with high-rep stuff (say 20-30 reps) just to change things up a bit, but I don't do it consistently enough to be able pin any gains specifically on that alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlikeafreak Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 What do you consider high rep training, Shane? Mostly my reps will be between 8-12, sometimes I'll go down to 4 or up to 15. Occasionally I'll finish a workout with high-rep stuff (say 20-30 reps) just to change things up a bit, but I don't do it consistently enough to be able pin any gains specifically on that alone.100 reps from time to time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shane Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I just started 50,40,30,20,10 four exercises per body part but three for tri's and two for bi's. Just going to give this a whirl done the heavy as low rep for years time for a change. Your form has to be fairly good as you can get fatigued easy :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greemah Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 If you end up doing it, make sure to log your progress and update thread in a month or two so we can see how you go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Everyone should be doing both as part of their training cycle. Heavy low rep sets are far superior though for both strength and mass gains. So long as you keep overall volume at the right amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gym rat Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 The only time that I do high rep training is when my joints start to hurt then I change to high rep training and I do that for about a month until I go back to ten to 12 reps with the rep rang ranging from 20 to 30 reps also I have used FST-7 when doing high reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ape Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Everyone should be doing both as part of their training cycle. Heavy low rep sets are far superior though for both strength and mass gains. So long as you keep overall volume at the right amount.Riccardo - Would you say heavy low rep sets, say 4-6 are better for mass gain over 8-12 reps? As long as the total number of overall reps remained the same. So if you did 8-12 reps for four sets you would need to do about 8 sets of 4-6? Keeping the total reps around 48? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Yip, It's my belief that, generally, a certain amount of volume results in hypertrophy not a combination of reps vs sets. However I also believe that you need a certain amount of mechanical tension to stimulate maximum hypertrophy, depending on the individual, that tension is generally achieved at weights greater than those in which you could achieve a couple sets of 20 reps at. Tensions less than this won't be great enough to stimulate hypertrophy via mechanical stress.if you look at Olympic weightlifters they very rarely go beyond 5 rep sets and have ridiculous quads. 10 sets of 3 is the same as 3 sets of 10 in my opinion.Whether you should use one particular rep/set scheme depends on the muscle fiber type. eg hammies should be trained with lower reps and quads trained with higher reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinahlady Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 10 sets of 3 is the same as 3 sets of 10 in my opinion.Wow.... to failure? You have like.... lifted weights before right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Riccardo Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 No the weight you would be using with a 10x3 would be more than 3x10.Dinahlady, care to explain or elaborate why you think I'm wrong? Or you just gona make dumb ass comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlikeafreak Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i agree with dinah.constant tension and time under tension are greater when reps are higher than 3. simple as that. not to mention the muscle pump.. brb gona watch jay cutler do 10 sets of 3 reps of bicep curls :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
startinfromscratch Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 i think these comments must be clarified and put in context, cos you are now talking about different things. * there is no difference in overall volume between 3 sets of ten, ten sets of 3, or 30 singles with the same weight. the total tonnage/volume is the same.* time under tension principals obviously change things, as your time under tension doing 3 reps with a weight you can comfortably do 10 with, most likely wont be optimal.This is why programmes like sheiko are set up how they are, with lots of sets of low reps - as if you do 10 reps, your last 5 reps of that set will have at least some fatigue/form breakdown present. but if you did the same weight for 10 sets of 3 reps, your form on all 30 reps would be done at a faster speed, with better form - but total volume is just as highcliffs - this topic is goal dependant 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcmass Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 10 sets of 3 is the same as 3 sets of 10 in my opinion.What do you base this on? have you read some obscure study that had findings like this? can you please link this for everyone to be as informed as you seem to be?Have you actually tried 10 sets of your 3 rep max compared to 3 sets of your 10 rep max? If you have and still think they are the same then I'm pretty sure its a delusion or you're doing it wrong.Olympic lifters often do higher reps when practicing speed on certain parts of lifts. The weight is lower so they can perform at a higher velocity and its nowhere near failure.I haven't seen that great a leg development on olympic lifters compared to bodybuilders, sure they have decent legs but nowhere near the level of development size wise as a bodybuilder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlikeafreak Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 10 sets of 3 is the same as 3 sets of 10 in my opinion.What do you base this on? have you read some obscure study that had findings like this? can you please link this for everyone to be as informed as you seem to be?Have you actually tried 10 sets of your 3 rep max compared to 3 sets of your 10 rep max? If you have and still think they are the same then I'm pretty sure its a delusion or you're doing it wrong.Olympic lifters often do higher reps when practicing speed on certain parts of lifts. The weight is lower so they can perform at a higher velocity and its nowhere near failure.I haven't seen that a great a leg development on olympic lifters compared to bodybuilders, sure they have decent legs but nowhere near the level of development size wise as a bodybuilder.inb4 graphs telling you why your wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 In after nothing to contribute beyond what you''ve read in flex magazine. Is 3 sets of 10 how you got MASSIVE biceps?Thank you steak for clarifying. Read my initial comment, people should be doing BOTH in a properly designed training cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Squat Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Some of this thread is a bit too complex for a simple bastard like me. Maybe I'm thick but does it really need to be this complicated? High and low reps both have their place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccardo Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 10 sets of 3 is the same as 3 sets of 10 in my opinion.What do you base this on? have you read some obscure study that had findings like this? can you please link this for everyone to be as informed as you seem to be?Have you actually tried 10 sets of your 3 rep max compared to 3 sets of your 10 rep max? If you have and still think they are the same then I'm pretty sure its a delusion or you're doing it wrong.Olympic lifters often do higher reps when practicing speed on certain parts of lifts. The weight is lower so they can perform at a higher velocity and its nowhere near failure.I haven't seen that great a leg development on olympic lifters compared to bodybuilders, sure they have decent legs but nowhere near the level of development size wise as a bodybuilder.Both are the same in a properly designed training cycle from my own observations. Refer to my original comment. Time under tension is not in of itself the important factor you are training a particular energy system so you can still tap into different systems using lower rep ranges. Yes body builders have bigger legs but they also are on a lot more drugs. Look at the combination of weightlifters and mild drug use (Ivan stoistov). I know a few bbers train with similar methodologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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