dogg196 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Do any Fat Burners Work serious Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlikeafreak Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrymundo Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 yes.I agree with ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diab0lic Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yes, but plenty don't too, and the ones that do only work if your diet and training are in check.IMO, anything you can get OTC in NZ is not worth the price tag though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZIDE Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diab0lic Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yeah ephedrine, caffeine, and green tea extract would be my choice if I didn't want to go for something stronger but the government in their great wisdom has scheduled ephedrine (major hassle) and green tea extract needs to be purchased from overseas online (minor hassle). Nicotine is probably the best thing to replace the ephedrine with (legally). I don't know why the hate on nicotine,it may be somewhat addictive but it isn't harmful if you're getting it without smoking.Appetite suppression is the main thing I want from "fat burners". The raise in BMR you get from anything except dnp is minimal in the grand scheme of things and the resulting caloric expenditure can be matched by not eating a couple of mouthfuls of food. Clen & ephedrine, etc, do "mobilise" fat, but this is useless if you're not in a deficit.Clen doesn't reduce my appetite, but ephedrine does. Ephedrine doesn't raise BMR as much as clen but I end up losing more fat on it as I find it easier to diet on it.OK Im rambling now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogg196 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Cheers was just looking at them for future ref when i finish my bulk at the end of this month.i find i can cut down to 10% fine but then end up losing mass and staying at the same bf just looking for some extra zap to keep me shredding. dont think im ready for anything like clen yet.oatmeal cinnamon, wholegrain rice, plain chicken and tuna come at me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zander888 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Is Clen really that good, and that hard to come be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz69 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Is Clen really that good, and that hard to come be?New Zealand Police now have considerable stocks.... When asking for Clen at your local Police station you will have to explain what Clen actually is before they tell you to get fucked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 stop horsing around Daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John222 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Yes, I am agree fat burners really works. I don't know what type of fat burners you are talking about but I considered the natural ones. Lemon, orange and grape fruit are good fat burners and personally I use lemon daily and I felt that it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diab0lic Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Yes, I am agree fat burners really works. I don't know what type of fat burners you are talking about but I considered the natural ones. Lemon, orange and grape fruit are good fat burners and personally I use lemon daily and I felt that it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz69 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 stop horsing around Dazhttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/crime/news/ar ... d=10808308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyfacials Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 was kidding broski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz69 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 was kidding broskiI wasn't... I went into our local station and asked for Clen, T-3 and Anavar... After I'd had to explain what it all was this big dude called Elliot told me to get fucked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Police bust t1tan.... Police have fake clen... Trollface.jpgdaz asks for clen, told to get fucked.... Daz asks for watery vodka, gets handed t1tan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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