JOSEF RAKICH Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 STEP 1Work out your maitenance calorie level.http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htmSTEP 2If your bulking +500 calories onto your maitenance calorie levelIf your cutting -500 calories onto your maitenance calorie levelThis is the amount of calories you need per day for your goals.The 500 surplus or 500 deficit is just a recomendation, its not a rule. You can have a bigger surplus or a greater deficit if you wish.STEP 3Work out a good macronutrient split of protein, carbohydrates and fats. NEVER go by percentages.Here is some good 'recomendations' to follow.- Your bodyweight in pounds x 1.2-1.5 = Protein per day- Your bodyweight in pounds x 0.45+ = Fat per day(your bodyweight in kgs x 2.2 = how much you weigh in pounds)- Fill the remaining calories up with carbs.There is 4 calories per gram of protein and 9 calories per gram of fat, work out how much calories in total your protein and fat intake equals to.Once you have this number you then subtract that number from the total amount of calories you need per day (depending on your goals)The number of calories left is how much calories from carbs you should have in your diet per day. Divide that number by 4 as there is 4 calories per 1g of carbohydrate. This will equal to the amount of carbs to consume per day.You now have a good macros split to follow, you can meet these requirements from any foods you wish.. Chicken, tuna, steak, oats, bananas, rice, almonds, peanuts, donuts, ice cream, lollies, cake.. Whatever, as long as it fits your daily macros and calorie requirements.IF ANYONE NEEDS ANY FURTHER HELP OR HAS ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING TRAINING, NUTRITION OR SUPPLEMENTATION JUST VISIT MY FACEBOOK FITNESS PAGE AND ASK AWAYhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Josef-Rakich-Fitness/118339324905728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Why +500 or -500?Anyone tried 600? Lol or they get fat or loose lbm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgzerozone Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Fark, I am 1200 - 2000 over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted March 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Why +500 or -500?Anyone tried 600? Lol or they get fat or loose lbmThey are just recomendations. Not rules.You can go into a bigger calorie surplus or greater calorie deficit if you wish, but 500 is a good starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vracula Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 awesome bro thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.T Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 That's useful as thanks man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted March 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 So for an example im 80kgs which is 176lbs. (lol do i even lift?)Say for example my maitenance calorie intake is 3000 calories.3000 maitenance calories + 500 calories = 3500 (this is amount of calories i need to bulk)176lbs x 1.5g = 264g protein (per day)176lbs x 0.45g =79g fat (per day)264g protein x 4 = 1056 (because there is 4 calories per 1 gram of protein)79g fat x 9 = 711 (because there is 9 calories per 1 gram of fat)1056 calories + 711 calories = 1767 calories of protein and fat3500 total calories - 1767 = 1733 calories remanining.1733 remanining calories ÷ 4 (because there is 4 calories per 1 gram of carbohydrate) = 433g carbohydrates.So total macros for a 3500 calorie diet:Protein = 264gCarbohydrates = 433gFats = 79gAgain you dont have to follow these, they are just recomendations or guidelines of a good macros split. You can aim for 1.8g protein per pound of bodyweight if you wish, or 0.6g of fat per pound of bodyweight. What i listed are just recomendations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vracula Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 do you do cardio at all rakich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted March 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 do you do cardio at all rakich?Nope i dont do any cardio at all, i just cut using a calorie deficit diet. Cardio isnt needed. But yes cardio is a usefull tool in burning calories and the more calories you burn the greater calorie deficit you will be in whcih means the more fat you will lose. So cardio is good, but you dont HAVE to do it to get shredded. I just personally cant be bothered with it and dont have time, so i just eat a greater calorie deficit to make up for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhh1 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 good explanation. dunno if i can be fucked counting calories/macros precisely when im not cutting though.also what would a disadvantage be if you ate like 100g extra protein instead of 100g of carbs, (aside from the fact that protein is more expensive than carbs)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Yeah that's a standard calorie deficit program people use pre-contest as well.Generally people would stay on the 500-less calorie diet for around a week, then based on a fat test consider making a change to increase or decrease the calories to keep losing. Because maintenance level calories fluctuates so 500-less this week might be 500-over next week if your body slows down due to low carbs if you haven't had a re-feed. Especially if you've bulked up to a good level of fat, there's alot fluctuation in calorie demand as the fat drops off.nicely put tho Josef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgzerozone Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 Question.When you are cutting for instance (The same for bulking I imagine), when do you adjust meals?Let's say your start weight is 85, and you cutting down. This would mean a 2200 Kcal diet to cut down (Give or take). Let's say in 4 weeks time you are down to 80 kg for instance, do you then re-adjust the cals to 2100 or so?I guess the 100 cals won't really matter, but just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhh1 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 its a precise science, cant just use guesswork or interpolation if you want a cutting edge physique. you need to invest in some mathematical knowledge.the situation you have is that you are a specific instantaneous weight, W, and your instantaneous daily energy requirements, E, are a function of this weight such that E = f(W)instantaneous weight is a function of energy intake such thatW = g(E)by substitutionE = f(g(E))obviously from this it is apparent that the function f is the inverse of the function g.hope this helps.but seriously if you want to do it to sufficient accuracy enter body-weights at a particular interval on that site's calculator ie go 75, 76....85kg and graph the energy requirements for these weights against these weights and adjust it accordingly as your weight changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhh1 Posted March 15, 2012 Report Share Posted March 15, 2012 obviously this method is only accurate if the online calculator is accurate compared to your specific energy needs, and your set of scales are accurate.in terms of the online calculator you would have to f*ck it up pretty badly to calculate your bulking energy needs at an energy deficit or your cutting needs at a surplus. provided you don't do that you should be fine, however any error could result in sub-optimal weight gain/loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hhhh1 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 do you even education? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Wow wizards lol... I just eat and train and it's just luck I turned out looking the way I do, but I'm a bit of a simplistic c*nt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steak Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 E = f(W)instantaneous weight is a function of energy intake such thatW = g(E)by substitutionE = f(g(E))obviously from this it is apparent that the function f is the inverse of the function g.you just educated us in how to completely f*ck up a good informative post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FellowshipOfTheRon Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 decent writeup, should answer most of the topics in this section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentOrange Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 ^BigJohn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhh1 Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 E = f(W)instantaneous weight is a function of energy intake such thatW = g(E)by substitutionE = f(g(E))obviously from this it is apparent that the function f is the inverse of the function g.you just educated us in how to completely f*ck up a good informative postrelax. the rest (stuff u didnt quote) of what i posted was serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamfatboy Posted March 16, 2012 Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 LOL - great thread, nice combination of sound advice from JR and Android, plus some humour, esp for those who missed out on Maths at NCEA level 1 My 2c worth... the best macros for any individual will be the best ones for them - slavishly assuming that what's in a book is holy writ is a recipe for disaster, because each body mass, metabolic competence (how well it can process food) and composition, and each daily activity pattern will have impacts. So, start somewhere, stick to the diet, observe and adjust accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 good explanation. dunno if i can be fucked counting calories/macros precisely when im not cutting though.also what would a disadvantage be if you ate like 100g extra protein instead of 100g of carbs, (aside from the fact that protein is more expensive than carbs)?Once protein and fat requirements are met there is no benifits in taking any more, so it onyl makes sence to get the rest of your calories from carbs as they are a good source of energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 Question.When you are cutting for instance (The same for bulking I imagine), when do you adjust meals?Let's say your start weight is 85, and you cutting down. This would mean a 2200 Kcal diet to cut down (Give or take). Let's say in 4 weeks time you are down to 80 kg for instance, do you then re-adjust the cals to 2100 or so?I guess the 100 cals won't really matter, but just wondering.100 or so calories wont matter too much, but yes as you drop weight, you will need to also drop calories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted March 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2012 LOL - great thread, nice combination of sound advice from JR and Android, plus some humour, esp for those who missed out on Maths at NCEA level 1 My 2c worth... the best macros for any individual will be the best ones for them - slavishly assuming that what's in a book is holy writ is a recipe for disaster, because each body mass, metabolic competence (how well it can process food) and composition, and each daily activity pattern will have impacts. So, start somewhere, stick to the diet, observe and adjust accordingly.I failed maths NCEA level 1. Infact i failed the whole NCEA level 1. Lmao serious.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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