I Declare War Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 still 'natty' if u inject insulin?Why? Do you want to change your status to Enhanced Bodybuilder?You do notice that the OP has changed the thread title, taking out "natty", right? Hmmm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shutupandsquat Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 still 'natty' if u inject insulin?I was thinking about this. He could be claiming natural but have taken insulin or growth hormones.We're all jelly though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatwaslight Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Natural progress or not he has done very well for his age and has outstanding arms and shoulders.Lets not forget though that bodybuilding is all smoke and mirrors, he is standing next to an asian who has the same torso width and thickness as him... I wouldn't say his arms are over 16.0 inches, but they look impressive especially next to the asian, but I dont believe he is 106kg's or whatever it was, simply because of his lack of torso.Sorry dude, but your chest is a tad tiny. Your still young though, so hopefully in the next five years you can beef that chest up.op has 18 inch arms, and is 106. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader69 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hey bro. Excellent progress . :clap: What are your goals for the future? Would you look to compete one day or just concentarting on mass for now?Not that it matters but what is the measurement around bi/tri ? I was guessin around 17-17.5 by the pic. Good on you for posting the pics. PS i think your beanie is a size to big, its fallen over your eyes sup brah 18 cold. arms wud actualy be above 18 in that pic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musclenz Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Nice potential Vader from what we can see. You are subject to a bit of "Tall Poppy Syndrome" on here but suggest you post up a few full body shots front & rear & then you will receive constructive criticism from many experienced people that are members on this site. Keep up the good work. Regardless of what you "take", it still takes hard work in the gym to build a good physique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatwaslight Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Nice potential Vader from what we can see. You are subject to a bit of "Tall Poppy Syndrome" on here but suggest you post up a few full body shots front & rear & then you will receive constructive criticism from many experienced people that are members on this site. Keep up the good work. Regardless of what you "take", it still takes hard work in the gym to build a good physique.repped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Nice potential Vader from what we can see. You are subject to a bit of "Tall Poppy Syndrome" on here but suggest you post up a few full body shots front & rear & then you will receive constructive criticism from many experienced people that are members on this site. Keep up the good work. Regardless of what you "take", it still takes hard work in the gym to build a good physique.reppedDouble repped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Android Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Nice potential Vader from what we can see. You are subject to a bit of "Tall Poppy Syndrome" on here but suggest you post up a few full body shots front & rear & then you will receive constructive criticism from many experienced people that are members on this site. Keep up the good work. Regardless of what you "take", it still takes hard work in the gym to build a good physique.reppedDouble repped....farkkkk Olympia I had that....triple repped LOLBeing the first to openly doubt the title claim I feel a bit bad seeing how the thread went, but must repeat....regardless it takes dedication to look like that, good job hope you stick around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Declare War Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Nice potential Vader from what we can see. You are subject to a bit of "Tall Poppy Syndrome" on here but suggest you post up a few full body shots front & rear & then you will receive constructive criticism from many experienced people that are members on this site. Keep up the good work. Regardless of what you "take", it still takes hard work in the gym to build a good physique.reppedDouble repped....farkkkk Olympia I had that....triple repped LOLBeing the first to openly doubt the title claim I feel a bit bad seeing how the thread went, but must repeat....regardless it takes dedication to look like that, good job hope you stick aroundQuadruple repped :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader69 Posted January 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Natural progress or not he has done very well for his age and has outstanding arms and shoulders.Lets not forget though that bodybuilding is all smoke and mirrors, he is standing next to an asian who has the same torso width and thickness as him... I wouldn't say his arms are over 16.0 inches, but they look impressive especially next to the asian, but I dont believe he is 106kg's or whatever it was, simply because of his lack of torso.Sorry dude, but your chest is a tad tiny. Your still young though, so hopefully in the next five years you can beef that chest up.notsureifserious the asian has 16.5s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genetic freek Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Love these topics - remember when Steve Orton posted up pics and the same shit came up about gear (he was obviously just a juiced up kid with no genetics too) - who is saying that now? Its clear he has genetics.I'd say great potential just needs good guidance - training with a self proclaimed aesthtic and/or pathetic asian at a snap fitness ant going to get you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vracula Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 whats with the hate towards the asian? :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dontrunwithknives Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Love these topics - remember when Steve Orton posted up pics and the same shit came up about gear (he was obviously just a juiced up kid with no genetics too) - who is saying that now? Its clear he has genetics.I'd say great potential just needs good guidance - training with a self proclaimed aesthtic and/or pathetic asian at a snap fitness ant going to get you there.viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6610 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernsamurai Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 whats with the hate towards the asian? :roll:That guy Timo self promotes himself hard... Have a look on NZ Aesthetics etc.Not a big fan of self promotion, unless you are at a level where you have achieved a lot, like top BBers who are clearly huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vracula Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 whats with the hate towards the asian? :roll:That guy Timo self promotes himself hard... Have a look on NZ Aesthetics etc.Not a big fan of self promotion, unless you are at a level where you have achieved a lot, like top BBers who are clearly huge!too many zyzz wannabes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genetic freek Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 whats with the hate towards the asian? :roll:That guy Timo self promotes himself hard... Have a look on NZ Aesthetics etc.Not a big fan of self promotion, unless you are at a level where you have achieved a lot, like top BBers who are clearly huge!too many zyzz wannabesThe guy makes NZshredder look MASSIVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamaFish Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_phat Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 That Timo guy doesn't seem big enough to be engaging in any self-promotion? Or is that picture somewhat deceiving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernsamurai Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 That guy Timo self promotes himself hard... Have a look on NZ Aesthetics etc.Not a big fan of self promotion, unless you are at a level where you have achieved a lot, like top BBers who are clearly huge!too many zyzz wannabesThe guy makes NZshredder look MASSIVEI'm afraid so... What happened to the avid gym goer who wants to be a freak with no neck and quads so big they chafe? What seems to be "in fashion" now is "I dont want to get too big" or "I want to keep my abs and veins all year" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernsamurai Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 That Timo guy doesn't seem big enough to be engaging in any self-promotion? Or is that picture somewhat deceiving?http://www.facebook.com/TimoTayzeSelf promotion to the core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karm015 Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 That guy Timo self promotes himself hard... Have a look on NZ Aesthetics etc.Not a big fan of self promotion, unless you are at a level where you have achieved a lot, like top BBers who are clearly huge!too many zyzz wannabesThe guy makes NZshredder look MASSIVEif i was nzshredder id be insulted that i was compared to that guy. he has like no traps. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmanx Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 The guy on the left is Natural, yeah.For a natty you seemed to have gained so fast your top is like 3 sizes to small already and you got some nice bacne going on. If you'd brought all your body parts up together it would have been less noticeable, but dream on.It isn't that you've made great gains that I'm doubting you either, a natural shape isn't what you possess that's all. Without anabolics nattys would have so much trouble being lean and full at the same time. You gotta come out of the closet and stop lying to yourself.If you still wanna play the natty card, where's the Legs at? Show us a pic of your matching natural Legs....plzzzAbsolutely agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympia Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 too many zyzz wannabesThe guy makes NZshredder look MASSIVEI'm afraid so... What happened to the avid gym goer who wants to be a freak with no neck and quads so big they chafe?Some of us still exist . Although our numbers are dieing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_phat Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 That Timo guy doesn't seem big enough to be engaging in any self-promotion? Or is that picture somewhat deceiving?http://www.facebook.com/TimoTayzeSelf promotion to the core.Word. He loves himself. Not impressed though - definitely doesn't warrant his own facebook page. Oh and look at that, he had to disable comments on the wall....wonder why :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernsamurai Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 The guy makes NZshredder look MASSIVEI'm afraid so... What happened to the avid gym goer who wants to be a freak with no neck and quads so big they chafe?Some of us still exist . Although our numbers are dieing out.Mint! I'm aspiring to be a freak so +1 there! That Timo guy doesn't seem big enough to be engaging in any self-promotion? Or is that picture somewhat deceiving?http://www.facebook.com/TimoTayzeSelf promotion to the core.Word. He loves himself. Not impressed though - definitely doesn't warrant his own facebook page. Oh and look at that, he had to disable comments on the wall....wonder why :roll:LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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