dannyjay Posted July 30, 2011 Report Share Posted July 30, 2011 Hey guys,I'm 6'2" 225lbs 20 years oldBeen bulking recently and gained around 11kg natural. The gains have been pretty clean, but obv a bit of fat gain there too etcI'm planning on starting to bulk again in a few weeks and wanted to ask, would you guys recommend a steroid cycle?I don't feel like I need gear, but I want the best results possible for my next bulk.I was thinking 10 weeks of test e + dbol 4 weeksWhat do you fella's think? =P~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severe Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Why do you want to bulk?Serious question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Because I want toI'm not doing it for competitive reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANABJAKD Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 you really should want to do it rather than ask for approval. i dont like to judge nor direct people - thats your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 I thought it might be a bad decision to cycle because of my age.But like I said, I want the best results possible for my upcoming bulk, and if I can bounce back perfectly after PCT then I'd see no risk in cycling now.Agree? Disagree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainlikeafreak Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 well if you use comon sense...obviously steroids are going to give you better results. doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. you will know when your ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 The general consensus is that 20 is a bit young. Having said that, there are plenty of guys who've started younger.The real question is, if you're making good progress without gear, and you don't feel like you need it yet, why not save your money?Also, if you've just finished a bulking phase, wouldn't it be better to cut down a bit before bulking again? That puts you in a better position to take advantage of your second bulk. That's particularly true if you decide to do a cycle. I think (someone can confirm this) that it's best to start a cycle from a pretty low body fat level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted July 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 Thanks Psuedonym.I've already got my gear on hand. I just need to get my hands on some Nolva then I'll be ready to start.My plan is to cycle for this next bulk and then think about cutting further down the road. I don't want to cut first, my goal is to hit 120kg by the end of September so I want to gain asap.Cheers 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted July 31, 2011 Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 so the question "Should I Cycle?" is really pointless since you have the gear already and are going to start using it once you get nolvadex... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train hard Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks Psuedonym.I've already got my gear on hand. I just need to get my hands on some Nolva then I'll be ready to start.My plan is to cycle for this next bulk and then think about cutting further down the road. I don't want to cut first, my goal is to hit 120kg by the end of September so I want to gain asap.Cheers 8)why do you want to gain asap? you want 20 kilos in 2 months? whats the big rush do your cycle and focus on gaining muscle and strength a 10 week cycle of dbol and test you could expect about a 8 to 10 kg weight increase if you have your diet and training sorted anymore then that and you will look like a big fat/bloated shit it is not a magic potion that is gona give you 20 kilos of ripped muscle in 2 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Haha I know broLike I said, I'm going to be bulking as much as possible and I want the best results possible from it.So of course it's not going to be 20kg of actual muscle haha, but if I can get a higher muscle percentage during my bulk with a steroid cycle, rather than a lesser muscle gain without steroids then obviously I'm going to go with the most effective option.Yeah, I'll be fatter and bloated at the end of it, but I'll be better off with a little help from steroids rather than no help at all from them.Feel me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
train hard Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 yeap fair enough its a big decision to make goodluck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Thanks bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovr4on Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 is your old man or your mums dad bald? if so you will lose all your hair bruv, beware :pfft: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted August 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Haha luckily nope, they both got all their hair so I think I'll be safe there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazyeye Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 skips generations my friend, but its over rated anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeah-Buddy Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 Haha I know broLike I said, I'm going to be bulking as much as possible and I want the best results possible from it.So of course it's not going to be 20kg of actual muscle haha, but if I can get a higher muscle percentage during my bulk with a steroid cycle, rather than a lesser muscle gain without steroids then obviously I'm going to go with the most effective option.Yeah, I'll be fatter and bloated at the end of it, but I'll be better off with a little help from steroids rather than no help at all from them.Feel me?Why aim to gain 20kg of muscle and fat and look like shit at the end? Why not aim to gain 7 or 8kg or quality muscle and look better? Makes no sense to me. You can gain 10kg of fat without the gear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatwaslight Posted August 1, 2011 Report Share Posted August 1, 2011 i started when i was 21 but its taken me slightly longer to put on 20kg than one cycle lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatwaslight Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severe Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Repped, hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I'll begin the cycle on August 15th.I'll post up results when I'm finished :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatwaslight Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I'll begin the cycle on August 15th.I'll post up results when I'm finished :nod: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Nice gifs bR0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny_R Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 Hey Mate,I don't post up often but when I see a thread like this I feel I have to speak up.Like you I'm quite young and was looking at my first cycle earlier this year, but decided it wasn't the right path for me just yet.But I think you've got to look at the very serious side effects that steroids can have on your health long term...You've really got to ask yourself the question: Is being big all you really want in life? Do you like the fact that you kidneys and liver work well now? And then you go put them on strain and could end up on dialysis later in life? Have you considered that when you come off cycle the depression involved with low levels of test, lost size, lost strength, lost that mental edge you get when your using, then feel small when you come off. Or even a fuked sex drive when your shit don't stand? Some people never come right and have to live the rest of their lives on hormone therapy. These are only some of the side effects I've seen in my friends that use. I've even had some mates who cry too me bout that shit. Before you start using look at the big picture just for now.I hope this helps you make the decision and hope I haven't scared you, I'm just trying to help you make a more informative decision I guess.All the best for you training dude and good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyjay Posted August 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I understand what you're saying bro.I've thought about all potential risks/side effects etc. This hasn't been a quick decision for me to make.I will be doing this cycle with safe dosages and proper PCT. I know what risks are involved if these drugs are abused.I've figured the main concern for me is going to be acne. I'm doing this thing properly, so there shouldn't be any concern about permanent damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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