JOSEF RAKICH Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*Finally someone who understands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 your total calorie intake can contain any types of food - gram for gram 100cals is 100 cals, regardless of source..No i diddnt say that, Did you read the thread title or did you just miss the word macros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*yeah, but how is this IIFYM bs anything 'new'? its pretty obvious that you can get away with eating a bit of unhealthy food, but seriously why would you? Especially spending $70 a week on maccas. Waste of money IMO, and you're putting all those shitty ingredients/chemicals into your body. I find that if I eat junk food I usually feel like crap afterwards, so I avoid it. Also JR are you really so naive as to think that putting heaps of preservatives/flavourings/colours and other food chemicals into the body while at the same time decreasing your vitamin intake will not affect body composition, even if indirectly?Im talking about body composition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhh1 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*Finally someone who understands.im having difficulty understanding how this is in any way a new concept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 That's it exactly. But at this point the thread's more about flaming JR than it is trying to reach any understanding.JR is advocating eating shitty foods. A lot of junk food contains ingredients that are pretty much toxic. I'm sure a bit of rat poison would fit nicely into your macros. Why not try eating a small amount of that every day and see what effect it has on body compositionIm not saying to go ahead and eat shittty foods im just saying you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yea i guess if that's what works for you, why not. While I still think it's stupid, I really couldn't care less if JR spends $70 a week on maccasYou care enough to make 2 posts about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JOSEF RAKICH Posted June 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 yeah, but how is this IIFYM bs anything 'new'? its pretty obvious that you can get away with eating a bit of unhealthy food, but seriously why would you? Especially spending $70 a week on maccas. Waste of money IMO, and you're putting all those shitty ingredients/chemicals into your body. I find that if I eat junk food I usually feel like crap afterwards, so I avoid it. Also JR are you really so naive as to think that putting heaps of preservatives/flavourings/colours and other food chemicals into the body while at the same time decreasing your vitamin intake will not affect body composition, even if indirectly?Im talking about body compositionso you are saying that even if you re deficient in micro-nutrients and are putting harmful chemicals into your body, as long as you acheive your macro and energy requirements you will acheive identical results in terms of body composition as someone who eats the same macro split/energy and eats healthy?Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*That's it exactly. But at this point the thread's more about flaming JR than it is trying to reach any understanding.Na JRs all good, just the IIFYM theory is to simple of a statement.Perhaps the fact hes defending it is making it worse?yeah, but how is this IIFYM bs anything 'new'? its pretty obvious that you can get away with eating a bit of unhealthy food, but seriously why would you? Especially spending $70 a week on maccas. Waste of money IMO, and you're putting all those shitty ingredients/chemicals into your body. I find that if I eat junk food I usually feel like cYeah the cheat meal or addition of junk food to a healthy diet is nothing new so perhaps JR coming here with this oversimplified buzz word is the ishue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhhh1 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 JR I understand what you are saying, but I disagree in regard to all the complex processes which occur in your body which require adequate amounts of certain micro-nutrients to function properly.I just think you're oversimplifying by ignoring the effects of micros on these processes, which I believe would have an effect on processes such as muscle building/fat loss, which obviously would then affect body composition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Bb.com forums are full of half wits like josef who spin new shit weekly and chase each other bumholes round in circles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgentOrange Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 how come jr is allowed to advertise his gay for pay facebook page in his sig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmanx Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Im talking about body compositionso you are saying that even if you re deficient in micro-nutrients and are putting harmful chemicals into your body, as long as you acheive your macro and energy requirements you will acheive identical results in terms of body composition as someone who eats the same macro split/energy and eats healthy?Yup.Oh my Lord! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Im talking about body compositionso you are saying that even if you re deficient in micro-nutrients and are putting harmful chemicals into your body, as long as you acheive your macro and energy requirements you will acheive identical results in terms of body composition as someone who eats the same macro split/energy and eats healthy?Yup.LIKE A BAWS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre01 Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*Finally someone who understands.Im sorry, but as I commented earlier in the postings, I understood as well. As I did the same thing when I was losing weight with weight watchers, I could fit Mac D's into my points and I loved it. This thinking got me dowm from 130kgs to 90kgs. I can also state that I did not binge as badly as some of the other members who were following the plan by the book. I had to make it liveable. This is the philosophy that I live by now. If it fits eat it. Make your life enjoyable. :clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samoan_muscle Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Im talking about body compositionso you are saying that even if you re deficient in micro-nutrients and are putting harmful chemicals into your body, as long as you acheive your macro and energy requirements you will acheive identical results in terms of body composition as someone who eats the same macro split/energy and eats healthy?Yup.The bro-science is strong on this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSEF RAKICH Posted June 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*Finally someone who understands.Im sorry, but as I commented earlier in the postings, I understood as well. As I did the same thing when I was losing weight with weight watchers, I could fit Mac D's into my points and I loved it. This thinking got me dowm from 130kgs to 90kgs. I can also state that I did not binge as badly as some of the other members who were following the plan by the book. I had to make it liveable. This is the philosophy that I live by now. If it fits eat it. Make your life enjoyable. :clap:Yes you did. And good job on the cut!IIFYM - Eat that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjim83 Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*Finally someone who understands.Im sorry, but as I commented earlier in the postings, I understood as well. As I did the same thing when I was losing weight with weight watchers, I could fit Mac D's into my points and I loved it. This thinking got me dowm from 130kgs to 90kgs. I can also state that I did not binge as badly as some of the other members who were following the plan by the book. I had to make it liveable. This is the philosophy that I live by now. If it fits eat it. Make your life enjoyable. :clap:Do you want a sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Zero Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*Exactly, a piece ov cake, not 4 litres ov coke :doh: I think the foes list feature on this forum hasn't got enough press. You can add skinny, arrogant, contradicting, opinionated phags who need to post less and train harder (I can think ov a few...) to it and the forum automatically blocks their posts for ya. Genius! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsammce Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think most people in this thread are overthinking what JR is putting forward. At a basic level, what he is saying makes complete sense - set your macros, set your calories, and you can have a piece of cake and a packet of chips if you can fit it under your targets :shrug:*crawls back into corner*Exactly, a piece ov cake, not 4 litres ov coke :doh: I think the foes list feature on this forum hasn't got enough press. You can add skinny contradicting opinionated phags who need to post less and train harder (I can think ov a few...) to it and the forum automatically blocks their posts for ya. Genius!brother.... you need to post more and train softer... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Man Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Damn, I was enjoying all the bitching going on hah. Josef, you should start up another thread. Pretty interesting stuff actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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