Defkid Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Well today i started my cycle of sarms. And I'm going to do a journal of my progress to hopefully shine some light on a product that hasn't really taken off yet, but could possiable be something great! Now it's in phase 2 so i'm told and is still in trials, some may think thats not safe, but the way I see it what is these days??Im starting on a 1mil a day for the first week, as a loading dose Therefore after that, daily I will be going to 0.5mil. It is taken orally under the tounge and I will tell you one thing if you enjoy eating ADOS glue then this is the product for you!A little about me and what im trying to achieve, Im 27, have done weights for ruffly 3 years 2 of those have been serious and the other not so much. I have never done any cycles of aas before or anything like that so you could say I'm a virgin to it! I hit one muscle group a day and i'd like to think that my training style is "give it all or none at all" My diet is good, eating at least 5-6 meals a day high protein and at the mo quite high carb intake as im on a bulking up phase. Also taking all the vitamins , aminos, and supplements to lead a healthy life.First dose was this morning. an hour before training (im going to exeperiment with times to see the best)Current weight:80.5kgHeight:5'7Bodyfat: 10-12%26/5/2011So Today was Back. Felt real good+nice pump and good stamina.1st routine Wide chins 4 sets 1x12 2x10 3x10 4x92nd routine Bent over BB rows (both hands) 4 sets 1x 12@60kg 2 x10@70kg 3 x10@80kg 4 x12@85kg3rd routine DB rows 4 sets 1x 8@45kgs 2x 8@45kg 3x 8@47.5kg 4x 8@47.5kg4th routine dead lifts ( now I have early Shermans diesease so I deal with constant back pain, when ever i do legs and anything like deadlifts,leg press etc,so much it's hard to walk the next day. So although these numbers will prob make some of you laugh, I just bear the pain and do it, as I know how good they are for gaining mass!) 1x 10@60kg 2x 10@79kg 3x 10@85kg. I finished with super sets of lat pulldowns alt grips med weight and was doing reps of 45. Just to finish me off.All in all feeling good.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maassive Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 wtf is sarms? Is this legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maassive Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 holy f*ck. like synthesized steroids without the steroids.... interesting. keeen as to hear how this goes for you mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBundy Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Selective androgen receptor modulator.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_androgen_receptor_modulatorhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OstarineThe idea is to have something which can target specific receptors without interacting with every other receptor. Less sides more specific effect on cells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemo Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Good man. Keen to hear more about this.I like the idea of SARMS, but its just a matter of them being practical and cost effective.Go hard mate, dont worry about the numbers ay, its not about where you start its about where you end up!But like...dont injure yourself....n shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted May 26, 2011 Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 PHOTOS! So this is Ostarine, is it? Or S4? Which one has the nasty vision side effects?Now, when you say 1ml... how many mg of actual chemical is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted May 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2011 Yep I'l be taking photo's for sure, and its the ostarine. Im not a 100% percent on the blinding one haha, but it's not the Ostarine. Im not sure on how much chemical it actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 2nd day. 1ml drop.Def felt this go through me more so than yesterday, wired and raised heart rate. for about an hourshouldars.1st routine Shouldar press machine1.12@35kg2.10@45kg3.10@45kg4.10@50kg2nd routine DB side raises singles1.12@12.5kg per side2.12@15kg3.10@17.5kg4.16@10kg (slow)3rd routine DB raises front1.16@15kg2.16@15kg3.16@17.5kg4.16@17.5kg (drop set)4th routine rear delt flys DB1.10@10kg2.12@12.5kg3."4."5th routine BB behind head press1.10@60kg2.10@70kg3.9@75kgShrugs1.10@90kg2.10@100kg3.10@120kg4.10@140kg New PBI went into the gym still a bit spaced out, but half way through got a enegry rush big time, I don't know if it's the SARMS or not but I have endurance more so than often. plus strength felt good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Im not going to record my workouts and post. To be honest i hate that, cause i like to change it up. Am still dosing at 1mil a day, but splitting up the times i drop .5ml in the morning and the other half an hour before training, Weight is flat 80kg still, however my bench BB has gone up 5kg finished on 7x110kg. so am stoked with that. also felt real strong today and had a good pump on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovr4on Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 So SARMS i understand has fewer side effects, but is there no water weight increase?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted May 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 hey man, no side effects for me, Some of the earlier stuff has night vision issues. but this no, water retention no, and weight gain yes, but not "huge bulking" providing your diet, training regeime is sorted you will add clean muscle. couple of kilo.maybe tad more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Same dose again today did arms, have a new training program now, given to me by my good freind. strength felt good. so with this and diet hopefully get some good gains. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted June 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Well today it happened, my back fucked out again, on leg press, real good, can hardly walk. So im going to take the time to repair it this time, dunno if I should carry on with SARMS or wait till im healed.Either way im pissed off... :evil: :evil: :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudonym Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Shit, that's no good, bro. What did you do to it? Here's wishing you a speedy recovery - could the SARMS help with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANABJAKD Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 ive heard some good things about ostarine; quite expensive, though yields some reasonable gains. i believe the sides effects with ostarine are much less than its predecessors, correct?im just curious as to why you decided to run ostarine, appose to maybe an oral/pro-hormone only cycle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hey guys, well my back has always been sketch my lower back, It all started when i trained at Les Mills i went under the wing of a trainer, who would be well known in the BB community. I don't want to name them, well cause i just don't, I put my faith in him and now I have this problem, I was doing reverse shoulder press on a machine he loaded it up last set. I knew when i started it was 'heavy' well for me anyway.So I started pushing with everything I had towards the end of the set I said I can't do it! "yes you can"NOW PUSH!! So i did but because the bars where kind of behind me and my back was loaded to hell my back was arched I felt it go bung!! Which left me crippled for days after. So that was just under a year ago, iv struggled with it since but with my love for training iv just grinded through it. last night I started doing leg press done all my stretchs, etc put 80kg on just to warm up, 4 reps in I felt the most disturbing PING and a flood of tingles go up my back.. needless to say i was paralysed in the machine for 5 min. so I just thought f*ck this iv had it! so now I'm going to get it sorted once and for all!! I wana do 250kg leg press and not worry, squats etc but as you can see even 80kg!! is not happening.It makes me real angry that I have this and to think my trainer could have prevented this, but thats the past now. So I have to deal with it! WBJ- To be honest mate im new to the game of enhancement. Im still trying to teach myself about all the different types of gear around. This just seemed easy and therefore got my attention. Plus in a new city I don't have the "hookups" Im all for suggestions on what to try..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WANABJAKD Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hey guys, well my back has always been sketch my lower back, It all started when i trained at Les Mills i went under the wing of a trainer, who would be well known in the BB community. I don't want to name them, well cause i just don't, I put my faith in him and now I have this problem, I was doing reverse shoulder press on a machine he loaded it up last set. I knew when i started it was 'heavy' well for me anyway.So I started pushing with everything I had towards the end of the set I said I can't do it! "yes you can"NOW PUSH!! So i did but because the bars where kind of behind me and my back was loaded to hell my back was arched I felt it go bung!! Which left me crippled for days after. So that was just under a year ago, iv struggled with it since but with my love for training iv just grinded through it. last night I started doing leg press done all my stretchs, etc put 80kg on just to warm up, 4 reps in I felt the most disturbing PING and a flood of tingles go up my back.. needless to say i was paralysed in the machine for 5 min. so I just thought f*ck this iv had it! so now I'm going to get it sorted once and for all!! I wana do 250kg leg press and not worry, squats etc but as you can see even 80kg!! is not happening.It makes me real angry that I have this and to think my trainer could have prevented this, but thats the past now. So I have to deal with it! WBJ- To be honest mate im new to the game of enhancement. Im still trying to teach myself about all the different types of gear around. This just seemed easy and therefore got my attention. Plus in a new city I don't have the "hookups" Im all for suggestions on what to try..??thats great you have an open mind.this is my take on sarms; they are new with very little research. they carry some adverse side effects. the claims of the patent 'Ostarine' not affecting LH activity(suppression of the HTPA) is a complete fallacy; on top of all these factors, the price of sarms are ridiculously expensive for their effectiveness. my suggestion is the same cookie cutter approach everyone endorses, i.e, "test is best." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hey thanks man Yea I was going to do a cycle on eth before new years but decided not to as was xmas and well i wanted to have a break.Surely the side effects from test would be more intense than ostarine?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatwaslight Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hey thanks man Yea I was going to do a cycle on eth before new years but decided not to as was xmas and well i wanted to have a break.Surely the side effects from test would be more intense than ostarine??yes you will build more muscle! thats more 'intense'inb4 steroid guru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted June 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Yea sorry that was a bit of a rookie thing to say.. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovr4on Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Hey defkid, spoke to a well known PT at my gym, and he reckons the popping in back of head when not breathing properly is quite common, has happened to him a couple of times also. Just an FYI from your pics thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 So weighed in this morning 81kg so have put on a kg since I started on the 26th. still hitting .5 of a mil daily..endurance is def up and my appatite is through the roof. so all is well in my camp \:D/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tikalosh Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 nice tasting stuff yea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted June 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Arrrrrr haha if your into eating model kitset glue.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defkid Posted June 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 so it's day 21. Iv changed my training program and am going to stick to that for the rest of my cycle, To be honest im not noticing any major gains the weight is going up, strength is a bit raised but the fatigue still the same... maybe bit more time.? :shifty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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